I'm very impressed by Valve energy they invest in Steamplay and the positive results they already obtained: more than 1100 games available for Linux (and MacOSX now?) gamers.
That what it missed to Wine: a big enterprise that use their software to professionally improve its efficacy and development. Only a big enterprise like Valve could do that. Today developers that develop a game Steamplay compliant port can sell his game on three platform without develop three different port. It could be for them a money/time saving while touching more players. Perhaps in a near future the game could even be played on Android with Wine/Proton.
Another good news for us: same multiplayer feature for all platform. This is very promising.

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Quoting: GuestI can see wine taking a place as the dosbox of many a game. I would imagine this possibility has occurred to Valve as well. If MS make older games difficult to run, a large portion of Steam's catalog disappears for Windows users. Wine is a good backup plan for that.

DxWnd....wonder if that'll work with Shadow of the Horned Rat.

You should give a try https://sourceforge.net/p/dxwnd/discussion/general/thread/2227213f/?page=1&limit=25#d2d9 [External Link]
But run DxWnd with Wine could need a lot of try and tweaks, good luck.

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Quoting: lucifertdarkSince Valve brought us Steam play my list of Steam games playable in Linux has gone from 950 to 1400, I now have 75% of my Steam games playable in Linux with little to no effort on my part. To say I'm impressed is an understatement. :D

Is that playable, or installable? The games might not actually run.
And they were probably playable before through wine. Steam Play changed none of that, it just means more focus going forward of Valve supporting running games in Steam through wine.

Food for thought: might Valve try this on Windows at some point? Not all games built for XP will run on 10 I suspect.

The difference with Wine is that most Steamplay prefix are already work with only one click. For example, for dragon's origins I needed with Wine to install DLL or other tierce winetricks apps install. With Steamplay just launch the game, it works and that's a HUGE difference.

Wine code is already used by some Windows apps to launch Windows games that are no more compatible and don't launch on recent Windows version. For example, DxWnd. I even use this app to start old Windows games with Wine, this is great to play old game in full resolution (stretch with aspect ratio) or launch directx games < Direct 9 or games needs 256 colors etc..
Effectively, in the future Valve could use Proton for Windows games too that does not launch any more on recent Windows version.
Will Wine become the Java toolkit/Runtimes for multiplatform gaming?

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With Steamplay it's more than 1100 games available for Linux gamers (and soon MacOSX users).
source: https://spcr.netlify.com/ [External Link] (completely stable and playable).
I kept only less than 10 games in my Wine Steam prefix that don't work (yet) with Steamplay.

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Quoting: GuestIf they start allowing games with native Linux ports to be run under Proton anyway - how are the Linux porters supposed to know whether that was a "real" Linux sale, or a Windows sale thats being run on Linux via Proton... in other words, how do you stop this damaging legitimate Linux sales revenue that should go to the porters like Feral, Aspyr and VP ?

We are talking about Linux native ports that are not maintained or don't work anymore or Windows port has more features... If dev/editor maintained their port, Linux users will not need to use the Windows port, isn't it? Read the issue here:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5638 [External Link]
there are several reasons to ask for this feature.

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Quoting: PatolaThere was already a 4) by other user, so here it goes:

5) Do an improper cross platform build like Reality Pump Studios did with Two Worlds II: Call of the Tenebrae (it has no executable) and use the Linux port slot, effectively preventing steam play from being used. Actually even some games with "proper" Linux ports that are now broken / stopped working is possible, like this bug report [External Link] for steam client shows.

This issue will be resolved by Valve when you will have the possibility to launch a Windows port with SteamPlay, even if a Linux native port exists. I'm sure they will add soon this feature, it's a very wanted feature on the Proton github, because a lot of Linux native port are not maintained or/and don't work any more.

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Our platform mess fighting game. I would like to buy a native Linux fighting game. I keep an eye on it.

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It would be great if Feral could update their games to use Vulkan. Another thing, I did read on Proton github that the Tom Raider 2013 does not run as good as on Windows and this people prefer to play it with Proton.

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Tekken 7 is on the Steamplay whitelist and it doesn't launch with Proton...Valve should verify his Whitelist before to publish it.
https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561 [External Link]
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/278 [External Link]

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What is a dev/editor don't want his game to be playable on Linux? Could he ask Valve to remove SteamPlay compatibility to his game? This could be for several reasons:
- the game does not work well with SteamPlay and he fears that this gives a bad image to his game
- Microsoft or EA doesn't want theirs games could be played on another platform than Windows
- Dev/Editor fears than this give them more work for support.

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