Quoting: dubigrasu

Quoting: slaapliedjeSo my curiosity is if you could install SteamOS 2.0, and just change the repos to Debian Sid or Bullseye and it'd just update and be current, rather than stagnant.

I don't remember exactly, but last time it was either testing or unstable I upgraded to, it wasn't exactly a straightforward process, though definitely possible. Then switched to Sidux, again not straightforward. At that point I had to ask myself, is this still SteamOS, why do I even bother, if Valve doesn't give a shit, what am I doing?
It was doable at the time, but I kinda doubt is still possible now, and again what's the point with SteamOS 3 on the horizon, which will be Arch based btw.

In case you're not comfortable with Arch, but are with Debian, I suppose?

Also, if you already have SteamOS 2.0 installed somewhere, you could just update it to newer kernels / mesa / nvidia without needing to re-install.

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Quoting: dubigrasu

Quoting: slaapliedjeI still think it shouldn't be called SteamOS 3 and needs to be 4... 3.0 was the beta branch based on Debian, and we all know Valve can't count to 3, but assuredly they can count to 4. :P

You mean the SteamOS Clockwerk attempt maybe? In any case, it was never viable, even as a beta, just an incomplete repo.

I also wish I could find some time to test it, but I don't know why you couldn't take SteamOS 2.0 and change the repositories to mainstream Debian and just upgrade to Bullseye and have a newer / stable system.

You can add Debian repos, and that's what I did for a while, but eventually Sidux offered some newer Mesa drivers I believe (don't remember exactly what it was the reason).

Correct, SteamOS Clockwerk was supposed to be 3.0. One of the devs were infuriated with the way .deb packages were built. Which to be fair, is a far more complicated process than PKGBUILD files for sure, so I can see with that why they moved to Arch.

But running either Debian stable+backports (currently Bullseye and new enough currently to be quite usable for a gaming OS) or Debian Sid, which now has the 5.14+ kernel would also be fine. So my curiosity is if you could install SteamOS 2.0, and just change the repos to Debian Sid or Bullseye and it'd just update and be current, rather than stagnant.

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I have an interesting requirement that more and more keyboards lack... the BOOT Protocol on keyboards. Without this there are many UEFI or older systems like my G5 Mac, and my Vampire Standalone that won't work. Kind of silly that more keyboards are lacking this. Wonder if this one supports it.

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Quoting: foggerYou can already play those games easily on Linux with DOSBox. I don't know why they are selling those games on Steam or GOG when most of those those games can be downloaded for free, legally, at archive.org.

Ha, Archive.org is an interesting situation. There is no legal definition of 'abandonware'. But archive.org also won't listen to dmca take downs from what I've seen.

But let's be fair here. Steam is a click and play set up, and with Boxtron you can even have extras like MIDI autodetected and set up for you. Downloading things from archive.org requires the set up of dosbox, and all the settings that entails, so isn't exactly the easiest thing to do. While most of us on here can do it, for the (hopefully) plethora of new users that'll hop on board via the Steam Deck, they won't want to mess with dosbox.conf.

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Quoting: dubigrasuWell, for me is hello Ubuntu, goodbye Ubuntu, its days as my distro are numbered.
I had a short period using it, but I've been mostly a SteamOS user since 2013, and only resorted to Ubuntu when SteamOS 2.0 was clearly abandoned (or so I thought at the time).
I did tried to keep SteamOS alive by adding Sidux repos and having practically everything up to date, but it eventually it was: what's the point?

Ubuntu served me well and I have no complaints, but for now: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish, looking forward for SteamOS 3.

I still think it shouldn't be called SteamOS 3 and needs to be 4... 3.0 was the beta branch based on Debian, and we all know Valve can't count to 3, but assuredly they can count to 4. :P

I also wish I could find some time to test it, but I don't know why you couldn't take SteamOS 2.0 and change the repositories to mainstream Debian and just upgrade to Bullseye and have a newer / stable system.

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Well shit, now I don't have a reason to not play Stonekeep! Though I believe on GOG it already has a Linux version, which I also already have. Steam is just more convenient to install things with :)

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Quoting: ObsidianBlkUmmm... Interplay still exists?! I'll be honest, I thought they closed and/or was bought out years ago! That said, regardless of my memory, this is cool news!!

Pretty sure Interplay as a company disappeared many moons ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplay_Entertainment [External Link]

Well if you read that... they are like the company that won't die... random lawsuits between them and Bethesda over Fallout, and Them selling stuff off... yet suing Topware for making a Battle Chess clone...

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Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: HoolyI am excited to see what Pop!_OS will do in 21.10

Exactly my tought! Pop_OS! 21.10 incoming! :grin:

I find it kind of amusing that I like Pop_OS due to them ripping out Snap, and it's easier to just switch to just normal Gnome with it, than it is to switch to normal Gnome and to rip out snap for Ubuntu.

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Quoting: robvv

Quoting: ArehandoroWithout Goldberg Emulator after a giving time you wouldn't be able to log in to Steam, and not all games work directly with the executable without Steam. Not counting all the features integrated that games have that rely on Steam.

I was responding to your assertion that the games "would not work". Goldberg Emulator doesn't let you log into Steam, but it allows you to run Steam games either offline or (in some cases) multiplayer.

My point was that as long as your games are downloaded, most will work just fine with a bit of tinkering. Yes, you will not have the social features of Steam or be able to make any further downloads, but at least you can still play the games you have installed.

I believe they have stated in the past that if they ever went away, they would basically flip a switch and let people download their game collection with the steam requirement removed. Might be interesting for someone with some clout (maybe Liam) to try to ask Valve about such a thing?

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Can we please have one with a 10key? People ask me, 'why do you need a 10 key' here are the reasons...
1) I use it generally to type in 2fa codes...
2) A lot of older games used the 10key as the controls, and I'm too lazy to rebind everything to more modern standards of WASD.
3) Emulation. Where the keypad is used either as joystick emulation or even more software that requires the keypad for movement.

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