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Quoting: CyrilSo, you accept DRM and find it a normal/good way (maybe the only way?) to defend their intellectual property?

Yeah, the reality being as it is, I support DRM 110%. Of course I do. Especially as a software developer myself for many many years I can *totally* relate to the challenge it must be for the company to suffer a grand scale theft of their hard work and investments.

I do not know your age but you may not have been around back then, but around the turn of the century piracy was well on the way of destroying the entire PC platform as a gaming platform. It was so bad that the developers only had a window of a few days of sales after release before it *completely* died out due to piracy. Dead. What the shops didn't sell the first couple of weeks would very likely be a loss, collect dust.

Back then, when you entered a game store, it was all about consoles. The practically piracy-free platforms completely covered the walls, from floor to roof. A corner deep down in the store there was some top selling PC titles. The rest of the shelves were consoles, consoles, consoles.

Valve pretty much single handedly, via Steam, saved the PC platform as a viable market for games.

Quoting: CyrilYou accept a system that restrict your freedom of what you buy only because it protect corporations and give them more power?

I experience ZERO restrictions on Steam. Zero. Never ever in my 16 years on Steam have I experienced any kind of hindrance. I play anytime anywhere on whatever computer I may have had over the course of these years.
Quite the contrary, what I experience is a free cloud save of all my savegames forever, and a free storage of my entire library of games, ready and available to be installed on new machines whenever, wherever. This service is something I'd PAY for, gladly.

We gotta stop being so damn anal about reasonable DRM systems. It's just fanatic.

If it's any consolation, the huge majority of those pirates probably never actually played those games, and just did it for the thrill and 'because they can'.

There are a few reasons why piracy exists;
1) Price (debatable if this is actually the top reason; sure when you were a jobless teenager, going to the store to buy software was probably a lot more impossible than getting some floppy disks from your buddies).
2) Availability (for something like the Atari 8bit and 16bit platforms in the US, there was definitely a shortage of actual availability. It was easier to find the software on BBSes than to find them in a store.)
3) Thrill / Collection. Already mentioned.
4) And this is very important... sometimes the pirated version works better due to the DRM (like CD Checks that break some things, or rootkits you get from the software are worse than taking your luck on the high seas.).

But we shouldn't be talking about Piracy. This is not what this is. This is a company that was planning on doing a remake, and don't want this project to cut into their sales of that. Why sell a 5 dollar old game (assuming people don't already have the game SOMEWHERE already) when they can sell the 60 dollar remake? Look at Diablo 2. They're charging full price for a game where they just smoothed out the graphics and made it more modern! If there were an open source engine for it, how would that not cut into sales of that, when you could just reskin it yourself?

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: slaapliedjeI should spend more time in VR for sure. Also, someone should mod the rest of the Half-Life games into VR... I feel a lot will be left out / missing from Alyx's experience by making a flat version... Like being able to hide behind desks and throw grenades at the enemy. And realize how terrible you are at throwing things...

Don't need VR for that, I see it with shame every time I try to play with balls with my little ones (4 yo). :D

Ha, I don't have any little ones to do that with. Maybe someone can code a 'kid simulator'... then again maybe that is a horrible idea.

Absolutely. I heard they've given out baby simulation dolls to teenage girls - so they'd avoid teenage pregnancies. :-D

I grew up during the time when people were saying that kissing someone could give you AIDS. Wonder how many people who grew up during that time also ended up single because they were basically scared to date. Ha! That still, somehow, didn't scare people enough that there weren't always teen pregnancy...

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: ShabbyX

Quoting: denyasisSo honest question....
Is CK3 so much better than 2 that is worth buying 3? Or should I hold off until it gets fleshed out with a couple more expansions?

I have CK2 and most of it's expansions, which cost a lot. I haven't played it much and would basically be a new player.... I guess I'm worried that I would spend a lot of money on a game I fundamentally already have.

I may be stating the obvious here, but you should probably first play the game you already have, see if you even like it, before you decide to by the sequel :D

It is also a Paradox game, though.
Those tend to not really be very meaty and "finished" until a year and a handful of patches and DLCs are in.

No idea if that is the case here, as CK is really not my cup of tea. But HoI4 or EU4, 4 example (heheehe...) I wouldn't have recommended until 1-2 years later.

Ha, or like Stellaris where you play it a year after it comes out... for enough hours that you know how the mechanics work. Then you play it a year after that again and all the mechanics have changed and you have no clue what is going on! I've been meaning to try to figure out how to play CK2 for so long... that they released CK3...

I really wanted to do the CK# -> EU4 -> HoI4 transfer all the way through. I can't recall if you can transfer from the roman era one on up? Anyhow, would be cool to try to survive through all games with the same character.

Technically, since CK2 is multigenerational, there is no "same character". But I get what you mean.

Ha, yeah same... what's the word, Franchise? :P Dynasty, that's the one!

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Quoting: denyasisThanks, I read some of the reviews when the game came out. I will have to re read them. I did find CK2 very difficult to understand, but I partly blamed that on my education. I know nothing of medieval Europe, so even the basic vocabulary was foreign. I'll likely have to suck it up if I want to play it (or CK3 I assume). I've put it on my list to play next after I finish the Witcher series. I actually think that caused my interest in the CK series.

Thank you for the advice!

It can be difficult to get into CK2. One of the best innovations of CK3 was its better tutorial and more helpful tooltips and ways to look up information in-game. If you're ever lost I'd suggest looking at the official wiki [External Link]. That or just ask people about things on the official forums or elsewhere (there's plenty of people who play Paradox games in GOL's IRC channel or Discord). Good luck!

The good and bad thing about a new CK game is that Paradox will support it for a long time to come... but that also means a metric fuck ton of DLC... I'm pretty sure I've spent 1k on CK2... and still haven't played a full game..

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: slaapliedjeI really wanted to do the CK# -> EU4 -> HoI4 transfer all the way through. I can't recall if you can transfer from the roman era one on up? Anyhow, would be cool to try to survive through all games with the same character.

First of all, I think it would have to be CK -> EU4 -> Vic2(or 3 if it is out by then :P) -> HoI4.

Basically, I've had the same idea, but honestly:

I don't think it is possible.
Not from a technical standpoint, that can be done (with limitations, obviously).
But I don't think you could do that, anway - how would you actually manage NOT to have conquered the entire planet by the end of EU4?

Realistically, if you play the game normally, not artificially restricting yourself, you'll be at least in a very good position starting EU4 and starting EU4 with a very good position basically means you'll have conquered half the planet by the end.
So then you'd start Vicky having already conquered half the world...
I think such a run would end before you'd even start with HoI4.

If you did limit yourself to stay below what you COULD do, you'd spend the majority of all games doing nothing at all - and that would be boring anyone out of their mind.

I didn't think Victoria2 had a transfer program? But the others seem to, and you'd start with Rome Imperator?

Oh, you're right. There'd be another game in the row.
With that in mind, you'd have to try really hard not to achieve world domination by EU4 :grin:

Ha, it needs to be Rome Imperator -> Crusader Kings -> Europa Universalis -> Victoria -> Hearts of Iron -> Surviving Mars -> Stellaris

https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/654hoc/gameplay_timeline_of_paradox_games/ [External Link]

Older post and is missing Mars ha.

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Quoting: haikuMy wife would kill me if i isolate with a VR headset :unsure:

At least ask her the courtesy to kill you after you win Half-Life: Alyx. Tell her she can take the time to plan out where to dispose of the body, what to tell the kids (in case you have some), etc. :tongue:

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: slaapliedjeI should spend more time in VR for sure. Also, someone should mod the rest of the Half-Life games into VR... I feel a lot will be left out / missing from Alyx's experience by making a flat version... Like being able to hide behind desks and throw grenades at the enemy. And realize how terrible you are at throwing things...

Don't need VR for that, I see it with shame every time I try to play with balls with my little ones (4 yo). :D

Ha, I don't have any little ones to do that with. Maybe someone can code a 'kid simulator'... then again maybe that is a horrible idea.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: slaapliedjeI really wanted to do the CK# -> EU4 -> HoI4 transfer all the way through. I can't recall if you can transfer from the roman era one on up? Anyhow, would be cool to try to survive through all games with the same character.

First of all, I think it would have to be CK -> EU4 -> Vic2(or 3 if it is out by then :P) -> HoI4.

Basically, I've had the same idea, but honestly:

I don't think it is possible.
Not from a technical standpoint, that can be done (with limitations, obviously).
But I don't think you could do that, anway - how would you actually manage NOT to have conquered the entire planet by the end of EU4?

Realistically, if you play the game normally, not artificially restricting yourself, you'll be at least in a very good position starting EU4 and starting EU4 with a very good position basically means you'll have conquered half the planet by the end.
So then you'd start Vicky having already conquered half the world...
I think such a run would end before you'd even start with HoI4.

If you did limit yourself to stay below what you COULD do, you'd spend the majority of all games doing nothing at all - and that would be boring anyone out of their mind.

I didn't think Victoria2 had a transfer program? But the others seem to, and you'd start with Rome Imperator?

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Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: ShabbyX

Quoting: denyasisSo honest question....
Is CK3 so much better than 2 that is worth buying 3? Or should I hold off until it gets fleshed out with a couple more expansions?

I have CK2 and most of it's expansions, which cost a lot. I haven't played it much and would basically be a new player.... I guess I'm worried that I would spend a lot of money on a game I fundamentally already have.

I may be stating the obvious here, but you should probably first play the game you already have, see if you even like it, before you decide to by the sequel :D

It is also a Paradox game, though.
Those tend to not really be very meaty and "finished" until a year and a handful of patches and DLCs are in.

No idea if that is the case here, as CK is really not my cup of tea. But HoI4 or EU4, 4 example (heheehe...) I wouldn't have recommended until 1-2 years later.

Ha, or like Stellaris where you play it a year after it comes out... for enough hours that you know how the mechanics work. Then you play it a year after that again and all the mechanics have changed and you have no clue what is going on! I've been meaning to try to figure out how to play CK2 for so long... that they released CK3...

I really wanted to do the CK# -> EU4 -> HoI4 transfer all the way through. I can't recall if you can transfer from the roman era one on up? Anyhow, would be cool to try to survive through all games with the same character.

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Quoting: ghiumaFallout 4, Outward and Mass effect... Kindoms of Amalur... Metro... The Outer Worlds... Shenmue...ecc ecc... :grin:

How good is Outward? I ended up getting it for the PS4 so my brother and I could play it co-op, and we got our asses kicked, got captured, broke out, got our asses kicked again, and then put it down for until we could figure out how to not get our asses kicked. :tongue:

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