Quoting: Elvanex

Quoting: scaineI was going to say the same thing as Liam - I left Windows gaming behind a) because Windows Updates kicked in at 8pm on a night I'd planned to play and reported that it would be updating for at least an hour and b) because I was sick of constantly downloading drivers, updating them, restarting, only to see the same issue plaguing my game.

So it's interesting that Marc thinks that a sacrifice was necessary to game on Linux. The only sacrifice you realistically make is a reduction in your available catalogue of games. That's huge for most people, of course, but in every other way, I've found the experience of gaming on Linux to be far, far superior than when I used Windows. I'm lucky to have good hardware, so the performance hit isn't noticeable of course, but I no longer have to worry about my drivers (they update automatically as part of my system, without interrupting me, and taking a minute or less, not hours), dealing with DirectX updates, Mono updates, .Net updates whenever I play a game, or installing drivers for gamepads, calibrating them, or random crashes when I alt-tab to the desktop. Or the registry - why does a game need a registry hack to run?? Maybe that's all in the past for Windows users too now - it's been five years, so anything's possible.

And this is all anecdotal of course, but just thought I'd chime in - I don't see much sacrifice here. You couldn't drag me back to Windows.

Very well said. :) The thing that pushed me over the edge was when windows literally decided to reboot itself while I was in the middle of an intense gaming session. I'd been getting ready to switch anyway, but at that point, I was so annoyed, I didn't even let it run the update. I just powered off, and nuked it from my system, never to touch it again.

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

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If it's going to be open sourced, there's always the possibility of people stepping in and releasing *something*. At least it isn't going to be one of those things where the source is lost forever, like so many commercial games.

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Apparently this did not fix the mouse polling speed for Neverwinter.

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Quoting: TheSyldatAnd that last comment of yours is totally not trolling ...
Seriously just read yourself back here . Kindly "an evil non binary" ...

There may have been a bit of trolling in there for sure :p

Kind of ranty lately because of dealing with a crazy woman, and being called a piece if crap for something they know was being worked on and agreed to is always awesome. "Oh hey, I am going to do this that affects you" "Okay, whatever." (Almost a year later) "By the way, it is now time." "Do you hate me that much?" Uhm... how did you NOT see this coming?

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I do love me some Battletech and weirdly this will probably be the first Paradox game I really play a lot (outside of Magicka). I know the old school Battletech, unlike the time it requires to learn their grand strategy games. One day maybe I will have the time for that.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeTheir chipsets are still crap. Everytime I use an AMD system, it has random issues.

Ironically, Nvidia made pretty good chipsets for AMD CPUs (nForce). But then AMD bought ATI...

Ha, yeah the aforementioned USB issue was on an nForce board. The first AMD based system I ever built was so terrible I had sworn off any non-nVidia chipsets for them. Then I had that issue on the nForce one, which made me swear off MSI.

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Seems to work fine, played through the first mission, but had crap sleep last night, so the nap bit is going to win!

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Quoting: TheSyldat

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: stankalovichI want to believe, but its probably going to be all Intel and Nvidia and really just going to be a marketing gimmick. If they really cared they would've made an AMD based product by now.

Doesn't the AMD graphics still require binary firmware blobs? Fairly certain they're still not 100% open source. And there is always the microcode.

To answer your question simply put let's summarize it that way.
1 ) When Linux users buy hardware they have a tendency to buy at the top tier of our catalogue
2 ) Being a bit less cagy and parting ways with the old days of putting patents on everything give us good image
3 ) Said newly acquired good reputation seems to sway linux users towards us rather than Intel
4 ) How about we very slowly point for point cater to them to see where it goes and if the trends keeps on making us money.

In other words AMD just like Intel is playing the incrementalism game ... Fine let's play it then. And Well AMD is just playing a faster incrementalism game than Intel is ... let's reward them then .

At least that's how I see it.

Reasons I stay away from AMD.

1) Their chipsets are still crap. Everytime I use an AMD system, it has random issues. Like USB randomly dying until I pull out the CMOS batery.
2) nVidia simply has better cards/features. For example, G-Sync is supported on Linux, Freesync is still questionable last time I looked it up.

I try to switch it up every few builds or so, but keep running into these problems. I really wish we had an alternative. RISC-V have all the Spectre issues?

Edit: To be fair, my previous server build was an Opteron, and it was pretty decent, though I think I still had some weird issues with the chipset. My current server build is an AMD FX 8120, and while it's had some random issues where I'd reboot it remotely and it'd just hang somewhere, I'm not sure if that was the kernel or not, because I have downgraded to the non-backport kernel in Debian Stretch and it seems to no longer have the freeze during reboot problem.

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Wow, 8.1GB download. Now to play Spider-man while it works on that, or take a nap....

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Quoting: TheSyldat

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: stankalovichI want to believe, but its probably going to be all Intel and Nvidia and really just going to be a marketing gimmick. If they really cared they would've made an AMD based product by now.

Doesn't the AMD graphics still require binary firmware blobs? Fairly certain they're still not 100% open source. And there is always the microcode.

To answer your question simply put let's summarize it that way.
1 ) When Linux users buy hardware they have a tendency to buy at the top tier of our catalogue
2 ) Being a bit less cagy and parting ways with the old days of putting patents on everything give us good image
3 ) Said newly acquired good reputation seems to sway linux users towards us rather than Intel
4 ) How about we very slowly point for point cater to them to see where it goes and if the trends keeps on making us money.

In other words AMD just like Intel is playing the incrementalism game ... Fine let's play it then. And Well AMD is just playing a faster incrementalism game than Intel is ... let's reward them then .

At least that's how I see it.

Reasons I stay away from AMD.

1) Their chipsets are still crap. Everytime I use an AMD system, it has random issues. Like USB randomly dying until I pull out the CMOS batery.
2) nVidia simply has better cards/features. For example, G-Sync is supported on Linux, Freesync is still questionable last time I looked it up.

I try to switch it up every few builds or so, but keep running into these problems. I really wish we had an alternative. RISC-V have all the Spectre issues?

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