Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: GuestThe video game market is broken as shit. You have publishers gouging money from gamers everywhere you turn, so people turn to other sources in order to buy games for less. Its been happening for decades. Remember when copied games were sold in the market for a fraction of the retail price?

(Not talking lootboxes and nonsense into account here..)
In my humble opionion, most games are way too cheap.
In the 90ies, a game usually costed 100 german marks.
With inflation, this translated to 83 euros / 93 dollars.
Back then a game was made by, dunno, a handful or two of people?
Nowadays, even productions by hundreds of people cannot ask for 90 dollars.
And productions by a handful of people are often condemned if they take more than 20 dollars...

If you where lucky back then you could afford one game per year, so the many hours we spent as kids looking at the backsides of games in the store so not to end up with the shitty game for the whole next year. O boy have the times changed, and then there are plenty of people crying all over the steam forums that 9$ for a game is a rip-off... Sometimes the old grumpy me wants to smack those kids on the head and tell them to get off my lawn!

But, remember that in the 90's it wasn't necessary to buy the games for to play them. We were able to RENT games for consoles like Sega Genesis, SNES and playstation Cd's, etc..
And We were able to rent games for computers with MSDOS, totally DRMFREE in Cd's, or even Floppy disks.
I miss that freedom!

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Since Steam and Uplay implemented regional pricing in AR$ with local cash payments methods (like Rapipago) I don't visit G2A anymore.

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Quoting: SalvatosNo one here is saying we don't want native games or don't appreciate those publishers, but the bigger the company, the more likely it is to disregard considerations other than profit, and it would be lunacy to expect all of them to operate on virtue and principle.

Specially if those companies are public traded on Wall street.

I believe video game companies must be 100% private, like in the early days, because slowly they went to hell when they arrived at Wall st.

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In the meantime, We loose marketshare...

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The game changer here in terms of performance are Vulkan, DXVK and its derivative, D9VK.

When SteamOS and the Steam Machines arrived, none of these things existed. The only thing was the (today obsolete) OpenGL and its bad performance against DX9/11...
Without Vulkan, the performance of a game running on Linux, due to the use of OpenGL would be nearly the 50% of the same game running of Windows.
Without Vulkan, DXVK and D9VK, the only option for to give performance to a game running on Linux would be to teach Linux how to speak D3D9/11 natively.... I remember there was a native implement of D3D9 for Linux and AMD Radeon GPUS.

But now We have Vulkan, DXVK and D9VK and everything is different in terms of performance..
Rebohle deserves the Golden Penguin Prize... And Ashton also deserves it.

I guess in 2020 We gonna see a new batch of Steam Machines.
Valve has until the EOL of Windows 7 for to polish SteamPlay and make it 100% compatible.

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Quoting: NeverthelessBut the point is: Proton games are not Windows only games anymore!

I agree! Steamplay is useful for to play broken or outdated Linux ports with more performance.

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Eike

if in short Linux was definitively better as a thing to use than for instance Windows, and specifically if you could play all the Windows games and Linux continued to kick ass in other ways, that this would inevitably result in a mass exodus from Windows and a rapid growth of Linux market share. I don't think that is actually true.

Hm... Not sure about that. It's not like I hear Windows users tell me all the time how they are just loving their Windows. And early next year, when Windows 7 is supposed to die, we'll hear that even less. There might be a barrier of "nobody's using it". If everybody knew someone who also runs Linux (and maybe could be of assistance), I could imagine this mass movement.

I'd certainly love to see that Windows 7--> Linux migration scenario materialize. But I've seen a couple of other "This MS screw-up should drive people our way" events that never worked out, so I dunno. Time will tell.

I have another machine with a legit Windows 7 SP1 pro licence that I use exclusively for gaming (Uplay and Origin) and I hope that before the Win7 EOL Proton will be 100% compatible with all the Steam games, because I'm not going to install Win 10 on that machine.

For daily stuff and alternative gaming I use this Ubuntu machine.

My new accounts since my Linux incursion.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/DigitalCHE_Reloaded [External Link]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/CaS-BiGIS-ProtonicEdition [External Link]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/CAS-BiGSUBiS-ProtonicEdition [External Link]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/CAS-IndieS-ProtonicEdition [External Link]

(And my first account from my fulltime Windows era. I don't buy games anymore with this)
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Digital_CHE [External Link]

One thing is the genuine love for a platform and another thing is the fanaticism.
The zealotry for this or that platform is bad...
I am only fanatic for to play the videogames I like to play (on Windows 7 because I need it, and on Linux because I love it)

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I prefer a good native port than a good Proton game...

But I prefer a good Proton game than a bad native ports.(The Metro Redux, for example)

And I prefer a good Proton game than nothing.
I can play the game. It counts as a Linux sale and part of the money goes to Proton Devs anyway.

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I know that buying a Windows game via the Linux Steam client and playing it via PROTON counts as a Linux purchase.
But what about gifts?
What if I buy a windows game as a gift using the Linux steam client? Will it count as a Linux sale too?

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I don't understand why Valve did this sale event...

The trading cards event of the previous Steam sales was much better. I added a lot of steam games to the wishlists of all my steam accounts because of that...
I am not participating in the new event since there is not trading cards.

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As I said before: This work justify the 30% cut.
We will never see a feature like this from EPIC, Ubisoft or EA.

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