Quoting: DreakonMan, that's gorgeous. Looking forward to having a nice and new cross-platform benchmark.

Hopefully they've managed to get some performance parity across platforms, because the older benchmarks made it seem like Linux performed worse than Windows, but that's only because the engine itself was not as well optimized for Linux as it was for Windows.

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Quoting: wolfyrionWell this offer doesnt apply for existing owners and definitely not for steam users even if you buy it now on steam.

On the other hand I find their prices extremely high but I guess this game is build having in mind that ONLY pilots will buy their game since they earn a lot of $$$.

Paying $1,000 for a simulator including all their DLC's I find it a bit too much!

Laminar Research doesn't sell any DLC themselves. All of the DLC listed on Steam is from 3rd party developers, and it's all optional stuff like additional aircraft and scenery. If you buy just X-Plane 10 (or 11) then you'll have a 100% complete and fully functional global flight simulator out of the box with tens of thousands of airports and around a dozen high-quality aircraft. Don't worry, this isn't one of those "you only get the complete experience if you buy the DLC" deals.

As for the $60 price tag, that's actually pretty typical for a AAA game these days, and it's a steal for X-Plane. X-Plane 10 was released in, I think, 2011 and has been actively developed and regularly updated since then. In fact, the latest update, version 10.50, was pushed out around a month ago. Laminar isn't like most developers who will release one or two patches and then turn their full attention to the next version.

Not to mention that X-Plane has always been the cream of the crop as far as flight simulators go. And Laminar Research isn't just coasting, either. Even without competition, they continue to produce an innovative and high quality product.

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That looks stunning. I wonder what the system requirements are compared to the previous version?

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Quoting: GuestThe only thing i want from this game is Vulkan support. It's a unity game after all and it's performance sucks.

This has been one of the most baffling things about this game. Performance in the beta was reportedly excellent... then the game comes out and performance is barely acceptable on systems that far exceed the recommended requirements.

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Quoting: killyou...they HAVE the money but are asking people to chip in anyway to minimize the risk.

I think this is the most likely reason. Unless Inxile is really bad at company management then they have money in the bank. Kickstarter and other crowdfunding schemes are basically a source of risk-free money, which I suppose as a business is extraordinarily attractive. It's also one of the reasons I dislike crowdfunding, because it puts most of the risk on the consumer

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So is there a narrative or some sort of goal, or is this one of those games where the only point is to survive as long as possible?

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Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: buenaventura...we have libraries where you can borrow books for free, there are free concerts etc.

A lot of libraries these days also lend video games. For that matter, some of them even lend you the system to play them on (console, obviously). And many video games are legitimately available for free through other channels. Which is to say that if you want to engage in the "culturally enriching experience" of playing video games (I can't say that with a straight face) then you can do so, legally and ethically, without spending a dime.

In other words, you just refuted your own argument.

Yes isn't it a damn communist world we live in? Burn the libraries! THEY ARE STEALING!!!!1

No, actually, libraries are funded through tax dollars, and everything they lend out is legally acquired.

Quoting: buenaventuraSorry, but you are the one arguing that culture should not be free...

No, I am arguing that there are many culturally enriching experiences available for free to the point that claims of "entitlement" are easily satisfied without anyone having to to steal or otherwise deprive someone of compensation they are ethically entitled to. You see, "entitlement" is not a one-way street.

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Quoting: buenaventura...we have libraries where you can borrow books for free, there are free concerts etc.

A lot of libraries these days also lend video games. For that matter, some of them even lend you the system to play them on (console, obviously). And many video games are legitimately available for free through other channels. Which is to say that if you want to engage in the "culturally enriching experience" of playing video games (I can't say that with a straight face) then you can do so, legally and ethically, without spending a dime.

In other words, you just refuted your own argument.

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Quoting: Mountain ManFor the record, this is a logical fallacy known as "ad hominem tu quoque", also called "against the man".

In other words, you're arguing against the person making argument and not against the argument itself. That is to say that if someone condemns immoral or unethical behavior that they themselves are guilty of, that makes them a hypocrite, but it doesn't make them wrong to condemn the behavior.

And this sort of sums up the "you are just silly entitlement people" argument that came from the article and was reiterated over and over.

This suggests to me that you have not actually understand any of the arguments presented against your position.

I think the worst of your argument is arbitrarily declaring that video games are culture, and that culture should be free. So if you want to justify taking something for free, all you have to do is convince yourself that it's "culturally enriching"? How far are you willing to stretch that logic? Do you sneak into a movie theater without paying? What about the local opera, or a sporting event? Help yourself to a "free" book from the corner store? Take your neighbor's car without permission because driving a vehicle is part of the cultural experience? Go through your friend's CD collection and take what you want without asking? Enter a stranger's home without being invited to watch television with his family?

Are you beginning to understand just how silly your argument is?

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Quoting: minus9Fortunately morality isn't a bool, it's a long long int. Otherwise the world would be a puritanical hell-hole where people would be condemned for all eternity for taping an LP from a friend when they were 12.

I presume the more pious members of this discussion have been strict adherents of the thousands of pages of copyright law for their entire lives as no one likes a hypocrite.

For the record, this is a logical fallacy known as "ad hominem tu quoque", also called "against the man".

In other words, you're arguing against the person making argument and not against the argument itself. That is to say that if someone condemns immoral or unethical behavior that they themselves are guilty of, that makes them a hypocrite, but it doesn't make them wrong to condemn the behavior.

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