Quoting: BoogiepopPhantom

I don't understand Valve's indifference in all these broken promises and massive delays...

I don't want to be thoroughly pessimistic, but as I see it, SteamOS was Valve vanity project and it more or less flopped. So Valve cares less and less about linux/steamos it seems.

As far as I know, Valve is still actively supporting Steam for Linux and SteamOS, so why the doom and gloom? This was always a long-term project for them.

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So does this have single player, or is it multiplayer only? If the former then I'm definitely interested. If the latter, not so much.

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This is why you should never never never donate to Kickstarter or buy Early Access on the promise of a Linux version, and you should never never never buy any game unless a Linux version is actually available for download immediately following the purchase!

Seriously, guys, it's way too easy for us to get burned.

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Quoting: EndeavourAccuracySometimes it's difficult to stay optimistic for us Linux gamers.

Unfortunately, I have to agree, which is ironic because things are better than they have ever been for Linux gamers, but it sometimes feels like it could easily collapse and disappear.

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Quoting: aldyMaybe linux users don't have the habit of buying unfinished games.

As many times as Linux users have been burned by second-rate support and last-minute cancellations, this is a valid theory

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All I know is that I've never had a problem with Nvidia while I hear nothing but complaints from AMD users. It has been like this for years, long before Feral started porting to Linux.

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Quoting: GuestTo put things another way (and to clarify about "expansions" vs. typical "DLCs", even though "expansions" can of course be "DLCs" themselves):

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Funny, but even I'm not that cynical. For one thing, this exaggerates the quality of expansions in the past. Back then "glorified patch" was a rather common, and valid, criticism.

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Quoting: CaldazarLong story short: As a consumer, don't mistake market power for quality.

I'm not. I'm basing it on the fact that Nvidia's drivers simply work better than AMD's. It has nothing to do with market power which I couldn't give a pair fetid dingo's kidneys about. Like I said, I go with what works.

Trust me, I would be thrilled if AMD and Intel stepped up their game and provided some meaningful competition, but they haven't.

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Quoting: Caldazar

Quoting: Mountain ManAnybody who is serious about Linux gaming needs to get an Nvidia card.

I don't think that's true. First of all, with your consumer logic we'd all be on Windows (and probably still using IE 7).

"Consumer logic"? I'm not sure what you mean by that. It's just a fact that Nvidia's Linux drivers are better than AMD's and have been for a long time now. For that matter, Nvidia's Windows drivers are better than AMD's. It has nothing to do with "consumerism" or brand loyalty. I go with what works.

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Quoting: BTRE

Quoting: Mountain ManThere's some nuance here.

Indeed there is - and if you can't see how me calling something that expands available content an "expansion" and not even following it up with the word "pack" is a distinction nor how the terminology used in marketing for games is wholly artificial - I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.

Paradox doesn't even refer to it as an expansion.

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