Quoting: wintermute

Quoting: Mountain ManIt depends on the terms of the contract.

It really doesn't. If the employment is over the contract is over, the terms in the contract are irrelevant at that point.

No, the contract lasts for the length of time agreed to by both parties.

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I would have to assume the "annoyances" stem from porting code that was originally written to support a single, proprietary, closed-source platform.

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Quoting: Nel

Quoting: Mountain Man"Personally, I think these sorts of contracts do no good, and I am not a fan of them. I am surprised such a contract is even legal!"

Why should they be illegal? If an employer says, "Here are the terms you must agree to before we'll hire you," and the employee signs on the dotted line anyway then that's on them. Trendy Entertainment is perfectly within its right to enforce a contract that both parties willingly agreed to.

ROFL

Just one sentence from Noam Chomsky:
The idea of "free contract" between the potentate and his starving subject is a sick joke, perhaps worth some moments in an academic seminar exploring the consequences of (in my view, absurd) ideas, but nowhere else.

Unless someone is holding a gun to his head, a prospective employee is under no compulsion to sign a contract he doesn't agree with. To claim that the employee in this instance was "starving" and had no choice but to accept an unfair deal is absurd. And "potentate"? Really? It's not as if Trendy Entertainment was the only company in the whole of the United States that would have been willing to hire him.

Chomsky is a brilliant linguist, but his view on politics are, to be polite, a bit out there.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: Mountain ManSuppose, for instance, that an employer recruits an employee and invests time and resources into training him. Then the employee says, "Thanks for the training... see ya!" Now the employer will get no return on their investment, and they'll have to start from scratch. A non-compete clause is a reasonable precaution because it offers some assurance to the employer that the new employee won't suddenly flake out on them. If the prospective employee doesn't like the terms of the contract then it's his responsibility to walk away.

There are more positive ways to inspire loyalty. You are unlikely to have very productive staff if you need clauses like these to force/blackmail them to remain in your employ. But this is beside the point as well.

It really depends. I know the news staff at local TV stations are almost always bound by a non-compete clause because it can hurt a station's brand if a popular personality were to move to a competitor's channel. It also protects a company from having their employees "poached" by a competitor.

I personally would never sign a non-compete contract myself, but I don't see any reason why they should be illegal.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Mountain Man"Personally, I think these sorts of contracts do no good, and I am not a fan of them. I am surprised such a contract is even legal!"

Why should they be illegal? If an employer says, "Here are the terms you must agree to before we'll hire you," and the employee signs on the dotted line anyway then that's on them. Trendy Entertainment is perfectly within its right to enforce a contract that both parties willingly agreed to.

If i sign a contract that says I have to kill myself if I ever leave company x, should that be on me? Stupid example, but you probably get my point. Such clauses shouldn't be allowed. They are from greedy people forcing crap on others. In this case the company is so scared of competition they put that clause in.

You're right, that is a stupid example. It's also a strawman fallacy. Unlike your analogy, a non-compete clause is not inherently unreasonable. Suppose, for instance, that an employer recruits an employee and invests time and resources into training him. Then the employee says, "Thanks for the training... see ya!" Now the employer will get no return on their investment, and they'll have to start from scratch. A non-compete clause is a reasonable precaution because it offers some assurance to the employer that the new employee won't suddenly flake out on them. If the prospective employee doesn't like the terms of the contract then it's his responsibility to walk away.

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Quoting: wintermute

Quoting: Foxv71He signed a contract which to me means something.... So if he broke it then he can just suck it up butter cup and get sued :).

Unless Trendy are still paying him, the contract is over.

It depends on the terms of the contract.

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Quoting: PeciskFirst of all, they can try sue employer, but it is employee who is breaking contract here, so I wonder how it would work even.

That's usually how these things go. If a company has a no-compete clause with an employee, and they learn that employee is now working for someone else, they will contact the new employer and say, "Either you fire that guy or we'll sue you for knowingly breaching a contract." Quite often the new employer will happily comply because the employee was obviously not honest with them during the interview.

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"Personally, I think these sorts of contracts do no good, and I am not a fan of them. I am surprised such a contract is even legal!"

Why should they be illegal? If an employer says, "Here are the terms you must agree to before we'll hire you," and the employee signs on the dotted line anyway then that's on them. Trendy Entertainment is perfectly within its right to enforce a contract that both parties willingly agreed to.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyThis has been around for bloody ages but it seems like it's moving faster lately.

It's certainly unusual for a free and open source game of this quality to go the distance.

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This, right here, is why I will never support early access.

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