Quoting: mr-eggValve are essentially providing the chicken..

What are you on to with this, Mr. Egg?

Quoting: EKRboiBUT when you're comparing 100+FPS in windows to 70-80FPS in Linux in reality it's a non issue. In most cases vsync should be turned on and if it gets 60FPS then that's what matters.. you're wasting power(computing and electrical) rendering frames you can't use.

The problem arises when your Steam Machine is pulling 70FPS in typical scenes and then explosions or whatever start to occur which drag FPS down below 60. Then the user notices something is off. Meanwhile, the 100+FPS alternative is still sitting comfortably above their television's refresh rate.

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Quoting: TincheYeah, it's the bloody component manufacturers. No wonder companies don't want to put out Steam machines when SteamOS can't suspend/resume and the FPS trails Windows by a constant factor. And Linux isn't to blame for this, but fucking ATI/Nvidia, weird ACPI (or whatever) implementations and all the other little components with manufacturers catering only to Windows.

I don't think that any single entity is responsible for SteamOS's struggles. OpenGL was never envisioned to be used as a high end gaming solution in 2015. Valve have been unusually quiet with marketing. Linux graphics drivers still lag behind. The market is already saturated with solutions that fill people's needs. This is just a battle that everybody involved needs to tackle a little at a time.

Quoting: NyamiouYou don't get it, XBox and PlayStation consoles are not sub-par PC with low FPS that just sell because of marketing, they have something, an experience that is far superior to what a PC can offer right now. Valve try to bring that to the PC gamers world, and at the same time get an opportunity to seduce consoles gamers, but idiots think that it's only about FPS.

I bet you, if a console gamer that have never have to deal with Windows crap get a Windows powered "Steam Machine", unless you alienate him so much with PC Master Race dumbsh*t to a point where he watch the FPS counter instead of the actual game, he won't like it and he'll go back to play on consoles. Granted, consoles gamers are probably not going to like SteamOS either right now, but at least Valve is trying and that will be fixed with time.

The console experience is only "far superior to what PC can offer" if the user cannot or does not want to think for himself. Unless you're saying that Valve need to target people who cannot think independently, in which case I guess I agree as SteamOS is meant to strip away the "hard" things about PC gaming.

EDIT: Let me reword this to be less combative. What console-only aspects of the gaming experience does SteamOS not yet have, that you feel it should?

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A bunch of bad news on GOL today :|

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Quoting: jedidiahlnxJust how many of us here are seriously dedicated to performance anyways? I still haven't gotten myself a "real gaming card". I still have what was at the time the bare minimum card supported for Oil Rush. I'm happy with my 15 pieces of flair.

I once was. Built a powerful tower with a high-heat, power-thirsty GPU... got the tee shirt. Now that I've experienced it I'm done with that hassle. APUs for me from here on out!

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It's already on Linux. I have a copy sitting in my Steam library right now.

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Quoting: PublicNuisanceIn any case I am happy with the progress and hope Linux just keeps growing and getting better. If Netflix would make it's service work on Linux I'd be estatic.

You probably already know about Google Chrome support for Netflix on Linux. And I think Chromium too with an optional DRM plugin.

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Quoting: tmtvlTo say the 1% is inaccurate is being kind, I'd say it's complete garbage & will stay that way till Valve do a full count of every single user on Steam.

Valve has a full count of every single Steam user for sure. They just aren't going to make it public.

Quoting: shigutsoIt seems that the marketing of Steam Machines has been pretty much non-existing on general media. If I were Valve, I would overhaul the entire Steam Store front page with videos and pictures about the Steam Machines during this launch week, so people understand what it is, what's its purpose and where people can buy it. It's not going to sell if nobody knows its existence.

On the other hand, you do not want to annoy users by throwing it in their face. Steam is already erring on the obnoxious side with ads that load at launch. Steam Machine adoption needs to be organic.

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Once the count passes 2000 I will consider the quantity to be sufficient (notice I haven't said quality). Until then, each multiple of 100 is a milestone to be celebrated for a platform that didn't even have a place on the Steam library only 3 years ago.

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Then submit an article! :P

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Boy, this sure is a great time to be a uh.. fishing-simulator enthusiast the uses Linux! All 12 of them will be so excited.

But seriously it's good to see all of these new genres finally make their way to Linux.

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