Quoting: Tuxee

Quoting: dubigrasuI hope they'll put up also a polished installer for the new SteamOS 3.0.

I can easily imagine that many will just strip SteamOS out of it and install Windows, but at the same time others might be impressed with SteamOS and tempted to install on their PC.

Why would they? Most Windows users never ever install an OS at all - that's something for the Linux crowd. In addition setting up Windows on such a fully integrated device is far from "super easy, barely an inconvenience" while OTOH you already have a shiny nice frontend running which serves the purpose perfectly. After all we are talking about a console.

I explained why a couple of posts below but suffice to say that it will happen. Already media is buzzing about "runs Linux but don't worry, you can easily install Windows on it" and is not so far fetched to believe that gamers in search of performance and a greater gaming library will go this route.
I didn't said "most" or "everyone", I said "many" which is very likely a possibility.

Edit: stupid grammar. Man, I hate this.

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I wonder if the custom version of the Steam client that they use is (or will be) a separated build, or is the same regular build started with certain launch arguments, like it was the case for SteamOS 2 ...

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Quoting: g000hIf SteamOS 3 is great as a desktop/gaming OS on x86 platforms, then maybe people running Windows 7/Windows 8/Windows 10 will switch to Steam OS rather than struggle with Windows 11.

Ah yes, thank you, that was the point I was trying to make.
Additionally, (while I'm all for distro diversity) I'd love to see it popular enough to become a standard target for game developers, task at which SteamOS 2 failed.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: dubigrasuI'm pretty sure many will do that, basically almost all the Steam Machines (old and new) were stripped of SteamOS and went full Windows, the same with many Atari machines.
The poor game selection was definitely a factor for that, and hopefully it will be not the case for Steam Deck, but many gamers are enthusiast tinkerers and installing a familiar and proven OS is the least of their worries.

Hm. While I'd be confident to change OS on a Steam Machine - a PC box -, I'd be less confident to do so on a specialized integrated system like the Steam Deck.

Well, it is already advertised that Steam Deck is basically a PC and you can install Windows on it.

You could even wipe Steam OS entirely and install a fresh version of Windows if you want

Heck, I'm already seeing this:


Or see what our dear Tim has to say about it:

...an open platform where users are free to install software or their choosing - including Windows and other stores.

(because of course he said that, cough Epic Store cough)

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Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: dubigrasuI can easily imagine that many will just strip SteamOS out of it and install Windows

I'm not sure they will. Installing an OS is a pain in the arse that most people don't do - it's one of the reasons why it's important that more vendors are pre-installing Linux. For non-gaming use cases you're not going to spend £500 on a device to use as an ebook reader or media device when there are way cheaper devices already available that will be better at those tasks (higher resolution screen, better battery life, no massive buttons), and for gaming use cases the experimental similar devices have had Windows being a detriment to the experience.

I'm pretty sure many will do that, basically almost all the Steam Machines (old and new) were stripped of SteamOS and went full Windows, the same with many Atari machines.
The poor game selection was definitely a factor for that, and hopefully it will be not the case for Steam Deck, but many gamers are enthusiast tinkerers and installing a familiar and proven OS is the least of their worries.

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I hope they'll put up also a polished installer for the new SteamOS 3.0.

I can easily imagine that many will just strip SteamOS out of it and install Windows, but at the same time others might be impressed with SteamOS and tempted to install on their PC.
The old SteamOS installer was OK-ish, but could've been more polished and friendly.

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Quoting: sciroccoIts bold using arch linux, hope updates wont break it, at the same time I cant wait for them to releaese steam os 3 so I can install it on my computer.

Is very likely that the Deck will hold any updates until they are tested.
They did the same with Debian packages for SteamOS 2. You won't see the same pace of updates as for Arch proper.

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Quoting: Arten

Quoting: DorritWhy do you guys think they went with Arch? Is it for not needing to eventually reinstall a new OS version?

They don't trust canonical after their initial plans to drop 32bit i guess. Arch begun emerging in Valve projects after that (futex), if i remember correctly.

Canonical planning to drop 32bit support with Ubuntu 19.10 onwards

Valve looking to drop support for Ubuntu 19.10 and up due to Canonical's 32bit decision (updated)

They weren't using Ubuntu for SteamOS though, but Debian (stable).

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Maybe is a bit silly, but I would love to see a "controller mode only" for this device. Basically using it for your other PC/devices, the same way as any other controller. Not talking here about streaming or anything, but just having it turned off (or some low power/standby mode) and attached to your (more powerfull) PC, instead of the SC for example.
Why, well, because its array of inputs makes it even more awesome and versatile than the Steam Controller itself. Sure, I would very much prefer a SC 2.0, if they ever make one again.

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Wait, I see underneath paddles, 4 of them. Wasn't a big lawsuit about this?
Also, this the best looking (IMO) handheld I ever seen. And it has two joysticks, two touch-pads and a classic dpad, nothing is left out.

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