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5 May 2020 at 12:23 pm UTC Likes: 2
The setup in question is one of my old mining rigs, which had at the time 6 cards on it. However I cannibalized it since, and it was complicated to fully restore.
You see, you can't easily put more than 3 cards on one board. Well, technically you can but you're faced with two problems, heat and power consumption. If you stick too many cards, the cooling is a big problem (cards are too closed together and the air flow is impeded) and the power flowing through the circuit traces on the motherboard can literally caused a fire. Yeah, that happened enough times, and this is not caused by the GPU power consumption, but by the fans :) Yeah, 6 fans running at full speed are drawing enough power to do that, because they don't get their power from those separated big power connectors, but from the motherboard itself.
So we used to mount the cards away from the board with PCI extenders and those extenders had separated feeds for the fans. We also used sometimes a second power source for the same motherboard. And even with all that, some connectors could get a little hot and make you nervous. Worth noting that this was mining, 6 GPU full load + 6 fans full throttle 24/7. Gaming no matter how intensive doesn't come even remotely close to that.
I still have all the parts somewhere in some boxes, but I'm not going through all that again. So I "revived" only two cards, much safer.
But again, that was back then (and relevant particularly to mining) and stuff might be changed since, and this was only part on topic...too much coffee I guess.
5 May 2020 at 12:23 pm UTC Likes: 2
Quoting: EikeNo, I only use three cards, one is my RX 590 and two HD 7970 on another setup.Quoting: dubigrasuFolding is something different, I guess. People are building machines for mining, but I guess they are mostly using existing rigs for folding. And most fast GPUs sold are from Nivida...Quoting: MohandevirMining with GPUs had two peak periods (AFAIK), one about ten years ago, and another more recent craze (the one that caused a GPU shortage/price increase). No idea what people use these days for mining, but during the first peak everybody used AMD. There was practically no Nvidia rig whatsoever. And as a side note, AMD+Linux was the preferred method, especially for bigger rigs/farms. Is likely that GPU mining introduced many people to Linux back then.Quoting: scaineI have to say, Dubigrasu, you've really knocked this out of the park:Wow! Impressive! My setup is running at about 90k per day, (CPU + 2 GPU, full load)... May we deduce that AMD is better than Nvidia for this kind of stuff too (like bitcoin mining)?
https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/245680 [External Link]
You're the fourth top contributor overall and I see that GOL has moved up to rank "558 of 252994". Insane. Especially when you view the top contributors and many have literally only contributed to GOL!!
Incredible and nothing to feel guilty about if you need to reign it in a little. I went for two or three weeks without any GPU jobs for the same reason, but without GPU, you're only really scoring about 10K a night, whereas you can easily top 200K a night if you use your GPU (I'm on a GTX 1080). But wow, does the PC get hot!
As for folding, today, if you look at the stats you'll see Nvidia as the preferred hardware, whatever the reason might be.
https://stats.foldingathome.org/os [External Link]
How comes you can contribute that big? You're admin somewhere? :)
The setup in question is one of my old mining rigs, which had at the time 6 cards on it. However I cannibalized it since, and it was complicated to fully restore.
You see, you can't easily put more than 3 cards on one board. Well, technically you can but you're faced with two problems, heat and power consumption. If you stick too many cards, the cooling is a big problem (cards are too closed together and the air flow is impeded) and the power flowing through the circuit traces on the motherboard can literally caused a fire. Yeah, that happened enough times, and this is not caused by the GPU power consumption, but by the fans :) Yeah, 6 fans running at full speed are drawing enough power to do that, because they don't get their power from those separated big power connectors, but from the motherboard itself.
So we used to mount the cards away from the board with PCI extenders and those extenders had separated feeds for the fans. We also used sometimes a second power source for the same motherboard. And even with all that, some connectors could get a little hot and make you nervous. Worth noting that this was mining, 6 GPU full load + 6 fans full throttle 24/7. Gaming no matter how intensive doesn't come even remotely close to that.
I still have all the parts somewhere in some boxes, but I'm not going through all that again. So I "revived" only two cards, much safer.
But again, that was back then (and relevant particularly to mining) and stuff might be changed since, and this was only part on topic...too much coffee I guess.
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5 May 2020 at 9:19 am UTC Likes: 1
As for folding, today, if you look at the stats you'll see Nvidia as the preferred hardware, whatever the reason might be.
https://stats.foldingathome.org/os [External Link]
5 May 2020 at 9:19 am UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: MohandevirMining with GPUs had two peak periods (AFAIK), one about ten years ago, and another more recent craze (the one that caused a GPU shortage/price increase). No idea what people use these days for mining, but during the first peak everybody used AMD. There was practically no Nvidia rig whatsoever. And as a side note, AMD+Linux was the preferred method, especially for bigger rigs/farms. Is likely that GPU mining introduced many people to Linux back then.Quoting: scaineI have to say, Dubigrasu, you've really knocked this out of the park:Wow! Impressive! My setup is running at about 90k per day, (CPU + 2 GPU, full load)... May we deduce that AMD is better than Nvidia for this kind of stuff too (like bitcoin mining)?
https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/245680 [External Link]
You're the fourth top contributor overall and I see that GOL has moved up to rank "558 of 252994". Insane. Especially when you view the top contributors and many have literally only contributed to GOL!!
Incredible and nothing to feel guilty about if you need to reign it in a little. I went for two or three weeks without any GPU jobs for the same reason, but without GPU, you're only really scoring about 10K a night, whereas you can easily top 200K a night if you use your GPU (I'm on a GTX 1080). But wow, does the PC get hot!
As for folding, today, if you look at the stats you'll see Nvidia as the preferred hardware, whatever the reason might be.
https://stats.foldingathome.org/os [External Link]
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3 May 2020 at 7:52 pm UTC
3 May 2020 at 7:52 pm UTC
Quoting: pete910Makes no sense, only time i've had corrupt work is if the GPU had been clocked, The prop OpenCL driver is the same even if you're using it with the open or stack.Like I said, "along these lines", I don't remember the exact wording, could've been "faulty work" or "bad work" or similar. I went through various configurations and at best the GPU would start doing work for few seconds and abruptly stop.
What are you clicking on this weekend? Come have a chat in the comments
3 May 2020 at 6:53 pm UTC
3 May 2020 at 6:53 pm UTC
Quoting: FTI grabbed Alien Isolation for £1.50 which is a great price, and so far the game is good. The world, atmosphere and sounds are brilliant but the gameplay can be tedious in parts.If the alien makes the game tedious, I hear there's a mod that removes it and let the player concentrate on the rest of the game (somewhat similar with Soma).
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3 May 2020 at 6:51 pm UTC
3 May 2020 at 6:51 pm UTC
Quoting: pete910Tried it, didn't worked though. Well, it did worked for other apps, but for folding it kept sending corrupted work (or something along these lines). Tried also other CL implementations, with similar results, basically all was fine until doing or sending work with the fahclient.Quoting: dubigrasuSo you guys still folding? I still do, but while the electric bill didn't deterred me, the heat might.You dont need the prop stack for it only AMD opencl bit, just remove the mesa opencl bit.
I fold with my RX 590 (which outputs very little heat and noise) but also with an old mining rig that I used 10 years ago, and that one is extremely noisy, hot, and consumes a lot of power.
Also, I had to install the proprietary driver for my RX 590 and I really don't like that one. For Vulkan gaming, is somewhat serviceable, but with OpenGL and overall, I have all kind of issues. Can't wait to get back to Mesa to be honest. The only thing that keeps me in the game (actual gaming and folding) is Stadia. I haven't basically touched Steam since.
But like I said, here is getting pretty hot, and while I'll feel bad about it, I'm afraid that sooner or later I will need to pull the plug.
I am still doing it when comp is on still but get very little work/tasks unfortunately.
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3 May 2020 at 2:03 pm UTC
Basically I noticed my GPUs (all of them) usage dropping to half when CPU started folding as well. I tried to set the CPU folding to lower priority, but that didn't changed much. Eventually I removed the CPU slot.
Don't know if that stands true for other systems though. I suppose you can watch the GPU usage in Nvidia control panel and put the CPU folding on pause, see if anything happens.
OTOH some folding projects are running only on CPUs.
3 May 2020 at 2:03 pm UTC
Quoting: GuestI fold but with a much more modest rig. My 4770K and a 970.There's one thing I noticed on my system, folding with both CPU+GPU seems somewhat slower overall.
Basically I noticed my GPUs (all of them) usage dropping to half when CPU started folding as well. I tried to set the CPU folding to lower priority, but that didn't changed much. Eventually I removed the CPU slot.
Don't know if that stands true for other systems though. I suppose you can watch the GPU usage in Nvidia control panel and put the CPU folding on pause, see if anything happens.
OTOH some folding projects are running only on CPUs.
Help GamingOnLinux beat Coronavirus, join us on Folding@home
3 May 2020 at 11:26 am UTC
3 May 2020 at 11:26 am UTC
So you guys still folding? I still do, but while the electric bill didn't deterred me, the heat might.
I fold with my RX 590 (which outputs very little heat and noise) but also with an old mining rig that I used 10 years ago, and that one is extremely noisy, hot, and consumes a lot of power.
Also, I had to install the proprietary driver for my RX 590 and I really don't like that one. For Vulkan gaming, is somewhat serviceable, but with OpenGL and overall, I have all kind of issues. Can't wait to get back to Mesa to be honest. The only thing that keeps me in the game (actual gaming and folding) is Stadia. I haven't basically touched Steam since.
But like I said, here is getting pretty hot, and while I'll feel bad about it, I'm afraid that sooner or later I will need to pull the plug.
I fold with my RX 590 (which outputs very little heat and noise) but also with an old mining rig that I used 10 years ago, and that one is extremely noisy, hot, and consumes a lot of power.
Also, I had to install the proprietary driver for my RX 590 and I really don't like that one. For Vulkan gaming, is somewhat serviceable, but with OpenGL and overall, I have all kind of issues. Can't wait to get back to Mesa to be honest. The only thing that keeps me in the game (actual gaming and folding) is Stadia. I haven't basically touched Steam since.
But like I said, here is getting pretty hot, and while I'll feel bad about it, I'm afraid that sooner or later I will need to pull the plug.
What are you clicking on this weekend? Come have a chat in the comments
2 May 2020 at 7:18 pm UTC Likes: 1
2 May 2020 at 7:18 pm UTC Likes: 1
Destiny 2, all day long. Not sure how to make it stop.
Oh, and the funny thing is Destiny was for me "one of those games" tied to Windows that I knew I'll never play and didn't cared about...until I tried it on Stadia. Now it got me sucked into it, totally.
Oh, and the funny thing is Destiny was for me "one of those games" tied to Windows that I knew I'll never play and didn't cared about...until I tried it on Stadia. Now it got me sucked into it, totally.
Stadia Pro games for May are up with Zombie Army 4: Dead War, The Turing Test and SteamWorld Heist
1 May 2020 at 3:39 pm UTC
1 May 2020 at 3:39 pm UTC
Zombie Army 4 does work very well, you could almost fool me that is running locally.
The Turing test though makes me feel a bit sick, just not because some Stadia/connection lag, but because of the game itself. I've looked on Steam forums and there are dozen of people complaining about the same thing. For me it feels like the mouse/gamepad movement is extremely and unnaturally smoothed, adding a weird delay in your reactions. Not much to do, disable motion blur and increase the FOV maybe, but still feels wrong. And like I said I doubt is because of lag, since jumping for example feels instantaneous.
Edit: Oh, by the way, there is also a StadiaDB [External Link] for the curious ones.
The Turing test though makes me feel a bit sick, just not because some Stadia/connection lag, but because of the game itself. I've looked on Steam forums and there are dozen of people complaining about the same thing. For me it feels like the mouse/gamepad movement is extremely and unnaturally smoothed, adding a weird delay in your reactions. Not much to do, disable motion blur and increase the FOV maybe, but still feels wrong. And like I said I doubt is because of lag, since jumping for example feels instantaneous.
Edit: Oh, by the way, there is also a StadiaDB [External Link] for the curious ones.
Google confirm EA games coming to Stadia, PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds out now and free for Pro
29 Apr 2020 at 2:51 pm UTC Likes: 1
29 Apr 2020 at 2:51 pm UTC Likes: 1
@Mohandevir
Give Destiny a chance though. I also don't care about PvP, but Destiny also has a campaign, a great story to follow.
Is true that is somewhat buried into all that PvP crap and diluted by tons of boring mindless quests (bring me 10 of these and 5 of that, kill 12 robot dudes etc) but eventually you'll learn to avoid the PvP stuff and stick to the awesome part.
There's tons of fantastic places to discover and explore, some beautiful, some horrible and is basically a huge world of planets filled with mysteries of all kind, magic and science combined.
I just finished the main story (or I think I did?) and now choose my quests carefully, I only fully explored Io and some other planets partially, and there's still a lot of adventures in front of me.
I still participate in some public events from time to time, but is just basically what I would describe as "sterile fun". You just disconnect your brain and push buttons on your gamepad.
Give Destiny a chance though. I also don't care about PvP, but Destiny also has a campaign, a great story to follow.
Is true that is somewhat buried into all that PvP crap and diluted by tons of boring mindless quests (bring me 10 of these and 5 of that, kill 12 robot dudes etc) but eventually you'll learn to avoid the PvP stuff and stick to the awesome part.
There's tons of fantastic places to discover and explore, some beautiful, some horrible and is basically a huge world of planets filled with mysteries of all kind, magic and science combined.
I just finished the main story (or I think I did?) and now choose my quests carefully, I only fully explored Io and some other planets partially, and there's still a lot of adventures in front of me.
I still participate in some public events from time to time, but is just basically what I would describe as "sterile fun". You just disconnect your brain and push buttons on your gamepad.
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