Quoting: Purple Library Guy... but if they're going to let you buy it they have to have a version for whatever platform you're on because most of their customers probably aren't running Stadia Linux stuff on their devices. Having a store-as-such makes the project a lot more complicated in an area where they don't have expertise.

This is confusing; no one except Google will be running 'Stadio Linux stuff on their devices', there's no such OS -- or even application -- for the end user to run. All the user has is a browser window into the 'service'.

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Quoting: EhvisIf Stadia stops supporting it

Or you meant if Google stops supporting Stadia? Well... Just like in the old days, when a PS, PS2 broke down and you couldn't buy an new one. Game Library gone. The PC gamers are lucky, in that aspect.

In that regard it would not be much different than if Valve stops supporting Steam. Aside of the games that can be played outside of the client, all the rest would be just digital garbage.

The latter comparison (Steam-Stadia) is a bit more on point; but the PS2 comparison hardly works at all. Google 'stopping support' for Stadia would correspond to the *possibility* of running anything on a PS2 going away, which entails i) every PS2 in the world evaporating; ii) every copy of every game disappearing so it can't be emulated (or its becoming impossible that an emulator should be developed by reverse engineering).

If your PS2 broke, and you couldn't afford to get a new console, you could still hold on to your games to play them at your friend's house; or save up to get a used PS2 in 2 years; or wait 10 years so an accurate emulator shows up. When something like Stadia 'breaks', you have none of those possibilities.

Even with Steam: As long as you have the downloaded files, you could try cracking them to get around the DRM. Again, no such *possibility* on Stadia.

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Quoting: Arehandoroand potentially GOG

Looks like it will be on GOG upon release: https://www.gog.com/game/baldurs_gate_iii [External Link] (I mean it already has a store page)

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Quoting: IperpidoIt's esclusive on PC.... But It will also be available for consoles (PS4 and Xbox One).
Stadia is not considered as a PC game store, so no problem.

That seems like a stretch. What does it run on besides PCs?

They said 'anything with a screen' at one point; though what they mean is likely 'anything that can run chrome'.

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Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: PatolaThat's weird, almost no Linux natives. Are all these games streaming from and running on Linux?

I suppose the correct answer would be that they're running on the "Stadia platform". Which may be Linux/Vulkan based. But it is not your desktop.

This raises a question in my mind. Compare the relationship between Stadia and desktop Linux, with the relationship between PS4 & Nintendo Switch to FreeBSD. The latter, of course, hold absolutely no promise for gaming on FreeBSD, not simply because FreeBSD isn't a popular desktop OS, but because the gamey-tech that runs on top of FreeBSD is a completely proprietary, totally locked-down affair. Stadia, by contrast, uses Vulkan -- and it SEEMS like there's no one like Sony or Nintendo locking down the 'gamey-tech' so the publishers can't publish their Debian/Vulkan ports elsewhere. Or is there? Like -- is it entirely up to Ubisoft et al. whether to release their Debian/Vulkan ports elsewhere? Is Google imposing any constraints in that regard?

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Stellaris just appeared on GOG Connect, by the way.

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Quoting: iiariGoing a bit off topic, but I'm playing through HL2 for the first time (!!) and I'm not sure I want a HL3...

Yeah my experience is similar. Bluntly put, HL2 was so boring to me, hat I had to force myself through to the end. Several months later I started the first of the 'episodes'; but I kind of abandoned it after a couple of hours.

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I've been replaying Deus Ex Mankind Divided, discovering small things that eluded me in my first playthrough.

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Quoting: LinasIt's just a built-in virtual machine of sorts, and doesn't support graphical applications as far as I can tell.

The current system allows for graphical applications just fine, as long as you separately install an Xorg server for windows.

Real Linux is still (subjectively) far superior experience. Which may or may not drive more people to try actual Linux instead.

Yeah, hopefully.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyJust goes to show, Linux rules everywhere . . . except the desktop. Makes you wonder how long Microsoft can hold out against the overall trend.

Later next month, they'll be shipping a real Linux kernel with Windows 10, which is what the 'Linux subsystem' will run on top of. I'm not at all sure what that implies, though. The author of this article [External Link] thinks it's bad news -- that it's the infamous 'EEE' strategy at work.

-- by the way it's weird enough that windows now has a native openssh server. It feels wrong somehow to be able to ssh into a dos command prompt. Pretty useful though.

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