Quoting: slaapliedjeKind of interesting to compare the major three large space sims, Elite: Dangerous, No Man's Sky, and Star Citizen.

Quoting: iiariAnd regarding the top 10 list, still very impressed NMS is still there. What a comeback story.

Quoting: ArdjeThey also started collecting the backerkit fee. Of course my card info was already a few years obsolete...

Quoting: StoneColdSpiderTrailer looks really nice.... but that is what trailers are designed to be and we have all been bitten to many times by flashy trailers to fall for them anymore....

I really want this to be good, but i have so many doubts.....

Quoting: scaine

Quoting: 3zekielFor the "do_something_on_your_own" I indeed do not imply that there is already a competitor in itself. Indeed, upstart came first, and snap more or less at the same time.
My meaning is more that they always do it on their own, there's hardly ever a community going around, they rarely, if ever, involve other distributions, and so on and so forth. Snap is the pinnacle of that, where the server side is even proprietary and fully centralized to them - I think they alleviated some of that, but not sure at all, and it clearly wasn't used by anyone -.

This is incredibly disingenous. Sure, Snap's backend is proprietary, but in practical terms, so is Flatpak's backend - everyone uses Flathub (I'm aware a couple of distros do host their own instance - but they could do so with snaps too). Constantly banging on about "ooh, but the backend is proprietary" is just noise. GitHub is a proprietary back-end, but very few developers moved away from it when MS moved in (despite the additional threat of co-pilot). We live in a weird world when Linux users are giving MS a pass that they won't hand out to Canonical.

What I love about Canonical is that when they see a problem, they try to push patches upstream, but if those patches are rejected (e.g. Unity & Mir), they create their way around the problem. This is what Linux is. This is what makes Linux so special. Fork! Be unique! 20+ Desktop Environments [External Link]! 40+ media players [External Link]! 10+ init systems [External Link]! 20+ package managers [External Link]! 40+ (easily) file systems [External Link]! I could go on - shells, browsers, file managers, calculators, window managers, programming languages. They all exist because someone said "I can do this fundamentally better" and whether they were right or wrong, I'm here for it.

Weirdly though, when Canonical do this, suddenly it's "they're not collaborating", or they suffer from "not invented here" syndrome.

Drives me nuts, just so much hypocrisy.

Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: PikoloSteam as a snap package? That is very unwelcome - I hate applications updating behind my back. Mozilla provide an official Firefox PPA, but I hope Canonical don't mess with the Steam APT package.

The Mozilla Team PPA is not by Mozilla, it's by a voluntary group inside Canonical (or at least they where some years ago). Mozilla are the ones that build the snap for Ubuntu.