Started Pine on Friday and have put in more than 6 hours already, which isn't normal for me. Struggled the first 4 with combat, damn guards in the villages, and trying to find stuff to do. Finally, got to the first vault and loving it. The story slowly seems to unravel, leaving an effect of a fable that I quite like.

Magi: The Gathering - Arena has also occupied most of my gaming time lately.

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My idea was getting a Librem 13 as my new laptop, not any time soon anyway, but if System 76 starts implementing coreboot perhaps that is a better option.

Although to be fair, I am also in love with the new AMD based Lenovo x395...

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Just activated my backer-key and hope to start playing it over the weekend!

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Quoting: SamsaiYup, totally picked it up. That trailer alone was worth the 4€, so if I can have some gameplay to go with it, that'll be a win-win for me.

Same here, though didn't buy just yet due to game overload lately but defo quite up on my list!

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The music captivated me, and the mechanics too! Nice addition for sure. Gedonia looks impressive even if it was done for more than one person :O

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Quoting: sub

Quoting: ArehandoroAwesome! Good for them! Looking forward to playing it.

Apart from the music, this is a one-man show (Stephan Hövelbrinks).
Which makes it even more impressive. :)

I know it's only one person but I do not know what pronoun they like to be referred by, so rather being neutral just in case :)

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Quoting: KeyrockValve quick on the update as usual. I read somewhere that DXVK 1.4 may yield The Witcher 3 improvements. Maybe they're for AMD users because I'm not sure how much more you can improve performance on my Intel/Nvidia setup. I don't have a Windows partition to compare against, but it runs so well it's gotta be really close to Windows native performance. Anyway, always happy to see progress.

I haven't read anything but I did notice less stuttering and a bit less GPU fan rpm, calculated by the amount of noise from the tower xD

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Awesome! Good for them! Looking forward to playing it.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Arehandoro

Quoting: sub

Quoting: Salvatos

Quoting: pbThat's it, I'm telling my son right now to stop dreaming of developing games. This basically legalises keyshops and now even allowing you to sell the games you're already played and finished, if it wasn't bad enough before... Piracy killed Amiga gaming, socialism will kill PC gaming?

Can we maybe not be so dramatic? Some of us are old enough to remember that that’s how it was for the majority of video gaming’s existence. And books, DVDs, cars, etc. Sure it would be a disruptive change, but as long as it doesn’t open the door to duplication (piracy), the market can adapt. It might not be pretty for a while, but it won’t just die like that.

I'm not yet having a position on all this yet, tbh.

Being honest, this pure digital distribution is different to what
we had back then for games or even more for the book example.

If you sell a used book, it's used - no matter how hard you try.
Those old game boxed were usually plastic sealed and you had to open them.
From my experience the cardbox boxes suffered as did the jewel case plus the CD.

All I want to say is this: Usually a used product is not mint anymore.
It shows signs of use that is represented in the price when you resell it.

This is completely gone for digital products.
You sell something that's perfectly the same as you bought it first hand.
There is no price on the consumption of the game anymore, which is what the
developer actually wants to get paid for - and that's fair, isn't it?

It's a dilemma.

Not entirely true.

When one buys a 2nd hand book, film, album or game, does the content differ? Is the content less enjoyable because the medium it comes in isn't in mint condition? In my case, I know the answer to both questions (NO).

One might decide to pay less for the state of that format but ultimately the importance here is what you do with that content. Therefore, Valve's case isn't different to existing consumer rights and market laws. Besides, let's not forget that more often that not 2nd hand books are equally, if not more, expensive that new ones in many situations AND that 2nd hand market is completely out of companies revenues. In a platform like Steam, if 2nd hand were to be enabled, they could, and they will, still control how it works getting a chunk of every sale for them as platform and for the dev. Which I believe, it should create another topic in itself.

On Steam (and perhaps the devs) getting a chunk of resale, that's still probably less than the overhead for resales of physical goods. Consider used bookstores--people who actually have gone to used bookstores to sell them your old books* will realize that they pay diddly for them, and only partly because the thing itself is used. They pay diddly because they have to pay rent on a store and utilities and some money for themselves so they don't starve, out of the markup. Similar things are true for used clothes and other things; lots of used goods stores don't pay for the stuff at all, people just donate whatever to get it out of their way. So if Steam or whoever takes a cut of resale, that's hardly unprecedented; they're providing the infrastructure just like a used bookstore.

* I very rarely do this but I have occasionally ended up with duplicates of the same book. Of course where I live, there hardly are any used bookstores any more. Rent got too high, Amazon took over, they all died except a couple legendary ones.

Totally agree with you. What I wanted to express with creating another topic, and mentioning the Steam-infrastructure case, is that we are still to see whether Steam copies could be resold elsewhere -something we can do with physical goods- and whether the devs see a portion of the sale -something they currently don't-.

Continuing with the bookstore analogy; where I live there are still several 2nd hand books though mostly people, and me, buy from online platforms. Quite sad in a way.

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Quoting: einherjar

Quoting: ArehandoroWhen one buys a 2nd hand book, film, album or game, does the content differ? Is the content less enjoyable because the medium it comes in isn't in mint condition? In my case, I know the answer to both questions (NO).

For me, the content of a book is less enjoyable, if the book is crumbled, stinks because the pre owner was smoker or has stains for example from dirty fingers. The binding of a book also breaks down through use.

But all this does not happen to a digital copy of a game. The pre users were smoking or played it a lot, or they had dirty fingers while playing... DOESN'T MATTER. The used copy is always as good as an unused one.

Those are "if" statements that you might, or might not, experience, depending on the quality of the book, that should be reflected in the 2nd hand price for the quality of the format and that might not affect equally to everyone.

The used copy isn't as good of an unused one for one very simple reason: TIME.

While I'm playing it, you can't play it. While the 2nd person I sell it too is playing, you can't play it and so on. By the time you, or other person, plays the game at a reasonable price (for that particular person) it might have passed a lot of time with community dying off, etc.

People should not take this like everyone is going to sell their games nor they are going to be able to sell the same copy to another 100 different people.

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