Quoting: scaineIt wouldn't even need 5090-like speeds! Who's gonna pay over 2 grand for one of those?? It just needs to be a decent upgrade on their current "flagship" model, which barely competes with the 5070.

Similar for me. I intended to do an upgrade last year, but when the current AMD gen skipped a high end model, I left it to wait for another generation. Knowing what I know now, that may not have been the best choice.

It didn't help that my current monitor is g-sync and that switching colours meant I'd have to go Freesync and get a new monitor as well. Just didn't feel like researching that.

This CPU though, a little above my TDP interests.

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Still, doesn't really make a lot of sense why they're delisting it when thinking on it. No special vehicle licenses, no track licenses needed and no online features to keep funding - why is it being just removed? Sometimes the industry just doesn't make sense.

Weird indeed. The best I can imagine is that it's removing competition for the second Epic-only game.

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Quoting: dimkoI wonder how much performance is shit to do with the fact that all environment but traders is completely destructible?

Probably most of it. It is extremely hard to do decent optimisation when everything it the world can change. I've played since A16 and both performance and visuals have gone up since then, so they've done a decent bit of work. But yeah, it will never be like something that renders a static world.

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Quoting: apocalyptechHuh. I'd have assumed that Fortnite was one of those things that was just gonna keep on making All The Money, but I guess not.

And you're not the only one that thought that. But it is unreasonable to think that any game has an infinite lifespan. People will inevitably grow out of games like this and go on to try other things. Any potential new audience find themselves in a landscape with much more choice than people had in the time that Fortnite exploded. It will be impossible to recapture the peak. If any game will ever grow to a degree that the older big ones did, it'll have to be something radically different.

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Quoting: tuubiI never really got into FMV games or interactive movies or whatever you want to call them, but this looks like it might have a better balance of gameplay vs cut scene. And real actors inside a rendered game world? In my opinion that worked pretty well in Cyan's classics and of course the wonderful Tex Murphy adventures.

Yeah, I don't really think you can put this into the FMV games category. FMV was just an aspect of what they could do at the time. The rooms and transitions were pre-rendered and just loaded as images/movies. They couldn't render and animate convincing people in those days, so they used FMV overlays for those. For a remake it's good to do it like that again to stay true to the original.

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Quoting: robvvYikes :-o I play games to get away from photo-realism!

Nah, I think for certain games it would be awesome... For example, if you had a game like The Last of Us or Red Dead Redemption, photo-realism would be great; but for a game like Palworld orHollow Knight, it would make absolutely no sense.

As long as they only use stuff like this where it is relevant it could be good.

The thing you need to be aware of is that photo-realism and realistic are not necessarily the same thing. Take movies for instance (especially those from a time where they still took great pride from art direction). These are filmed, so by definition photo-realistic. However, everything you see on screen from people, lighting, atmosphere to color grading was created with intent. This is not necessarily realistic, but it makes the scene better. This is how it should be and this is also how games should be made. This tech is not benefiting any of that.

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The one thing I'm wondering. Nvidia stated that they used two 5090s for the demos, one for the game and one for the dlss processing. They also stated that it will be releasing this autumn. How is that going two work? Did they really pay off a bunch of studios for demo games so that those 7 people in the world that have a spare 5090 can use it?

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Quoting: WanderdueneI'm not surprised to see something like this popping up in the Redering pipeline now. I'm torn about that. For games with a realistic look, this could be the final step toward achieving true photorealism. On the other hand, that could lead to more AI-generated look and make everything look increasingly generic. I really hope the developer has control over what gets used. As a developer, I'd be pissed if Nvidia's AI replaced my visual style or the appearance of characters with an AI-generated look without control over it.

To me it seems fundamentally impossible that this will ever work well. DLSS only has the current frame to work with, so all of the information used to add whatever it adds to scene NVIDIA has to pull out of their ass. This is also true for upscaling which is why it will always have all the artifacts, but made up details that don't make any sense are obviously way worse.

It's going to be even worse. AAA studios are on-board according to nvidia. Which probably means that upper management is on-board because they see another opportunity for them to do less work and let dlss5 "pick up the slack". They did it with other forms of upscaling, they did it with raytracing and they're going to want to do it with this.

I'm so sick of it that I've started refunding everything that doesn't run properly without upscaling and this only reinforces it. I don't want this crap. At least now we know that both nvidia and digital foundry are truly dead. But what will amd do? I await in fear.

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Quoting: EWGSo, besides exposure, does this do anything to help Godot?

For Godot to improve, it must get professional users to identify all the ways in which things don't work right. Mega Crit also did a sizeable donation to the project. That definitely helps.

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Imagine being an honest game artist and seeing your creation ruined like that. I guess there is one positive thing. You can now filter out developers that don't care about art simply by their dlss5 support!

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