Quoting: sub

Quoting: einherjarBad expectation management can kill the success of a product.
Here is a serious problem, that may kill SteamOS as a product. People will be disappointed about this shit Linux that does not run game <xyz> and install windows :dizzy:

I'm completely with you on that.

Yet, I wonder why the expectation management for Steam Machines and Steam Deck is so naive.
I mean, when it comes to HL3, Portal3, they are pretty clear and avoid anything leading to false hope. This must be two completely different strategies here.

Installing Windows on it will be painful. AMD and Valve are currently working on getting W11 to run at all.

Most people won't care about that at all. The TOP 100 games will run. You have people there who have never installed an OS before or who are coming from the Mac or another console.

What matters is whether the Steam Deck works and convinces as a gaming console. Then no one cares if some niche title runs on it right away. We are very concerned about that, but ordinary people don't care.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

"Something that we said earlier on is that we really want the entire library to work," developer, Lawrence Yang told us, "and if it doesn't work we see that as a bug and we want to fix it."

https://www.pcgamer.com/if-the-steam-deck-doesnt-run-your-entire-library-at-launch-valve-sees-that-as-a-bug/ [External Link]

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: BielFPsI don't think they want / can build the steam client with third party software, and in this case you're talking about pushing third party AC to users who won't play those games too.

This is simply agreed to in the SteamOS 3.0 EULA and that's it. Nobody forces you to install it on your Linux PC. If you can get it to run at all under normal Proton, it will always be optional.

But games like Valorant will require a TPM in the future. Windows 11 will push that through. There is little Valve can do about it.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: MohandevirSorry for my ignorance, but could Valve push the "AC kernel module" with the Steam Linux client installation?

That could make it available on any Linux installation (not just SteamOS)... No?

Basically, of course, via DKMS, just like Nvidia does. I don't think that's Valve's preferred solution, because Valve itself doesn't believe in kernel-based AC. But they might be forced to do it.

Whether they then make it available for the regular Proton certainly depends to some extent on whether the module can be released as open source. That would make it much easier.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: BielFPsI am really skeptical about this situation improving so much with steam deck release

Same here, but Valve must have some substancial breakthrough that they didn't share, if they made such a bold claim. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense...

They simply have their money and their stats. The top 100 games will run. That probably already covers 99% of active players. The Deck has a TPM. With this and money you can implement any AC.

They can easily register their TPMs with EAC and others. The AC then comes as a signed and closed kernel module for SteamOS. Problem solved.

Proton is only the open source part of the system. With the Steam Deck, a lot of software will be released that we haven't even seen yet. Valve has already pointed this out.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Based on the installed TP module, the AC problem can be solved very effectively. The same applies to elaborate DRM and anti-tampering. For Media Foundation Microsoft licenses others, so why not Valve? There are other licenses that Valve needs to buy.

Just because they use their own operating system does not mean complete license freedom. They will try to reduce licenses for which they have to pay. But if the Media Foundation content doesn't run (for example), that's not an alternative, it would be a serious flaw. Games like Soul Calibur VI would not run reasonably. Valve can't do that.

SteamOS 3.0 is no longer open source. I think we should lower our expectations of what of it will run in normal Proton and on normal Linux distributions. Steam itself is not open software. Maybe many of us don't want TPM-based AC on their desktops?

Just my 2 cents.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

In The Valley of Gods

View this comment - View article - View full comments

I read in an article with this new AMD APU ("Van Gogh"), it should have the performance of a PS4 (slim). Can that be true and how power hungry would such a device be?

I wonder if Valve will subsidize the console. There was talk of $399. That would be hard to calculate I think.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Commitment has now become essential. No longer just a few internally freelance people at Valve.

Is Valve perhaps making a new start for Steam Machines after all? Or streaming or something else?

On the PC desktop, Linux will never prevail. That ship has sailed. The PC is replaced by tablets and phones.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: GuestIt's not necessary a "rival", it is a tool in the same sense as blender, maybe they see a use case (down the road) for it.

No, it's charity, non-profit, publicity. Call it what you want.

If you see a use case in your field of business, then you enter into a cooperation, because you want to control and influence the project accordingly. You pay people to develop a project in a certain direction.

Imagine Valve had simply given money to the Wine project. What would that have done for Valve? Absolutely nothing. There is a huge difference between giving money away and investing money.

Epic doesn't have a clue what they're doing. They just have a lot of money right now.

View this comment - View article - View full comments