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Quoting: GuestCan't say Intel is my favorite company but I definitely welcome more competition into the GPU space.

Me too. OTOH, I'm not too happy with them buying TSMC production. Not only that immediately creates a stupid bottleneck for Intel GPUs, but it actually undermine AMD's capability of making their stuff there too, because there is no way AMD can mach Intel's financial war chest on negotiations for TSMC production, thus making sure AMD will never pull a 7nm jump ahead of Intel again.

People may call BS on that, but to me it looks like the Athlon 64 all over again.

TSMC is Taiwan Semiconductor, based, of course, in Taiwan. The article seems to say that Intel is buying Tower Semiconductor, based in Israel (which should also get them a majority stake in TPSCo, based in Japan). If I am mistaken or have missed something, please feel free to correct me.

AFAIK, Intel's discrete GPUs (at least initially) will come from TSMC. Also, they are giving a truckload of money for a big chunk of TSMC's future advanced node production. The only other one is Apple. Both can keep AMD out of the bleeding edge for a couple years, enough to break AMD's growth on key markets like laptops and server CPUs.

Oh, I see; unrelated to the news in the article, you're concerned with them buying production time from TSMC. That makes sense now.

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Quoting: M@GOid

Quoting: GuestCan't say Intel is my favorite company but I definitely welcome more competition into the GPU space.

Me too. OTOH, I'm not too happy with them buying TSMC production. Not only that immediately creates a stupid bottleneck for Intel GPUs, but it actually undermine AMD's capability of making their stuff there too, because there is no way AMD can mach Intel's financial war chest on negotiations for TSMC production, thus making sure AMD will never pull a 7nm jump ahead of Intel again.

People may call BS on that, but to me it looks like the Athlon 64 all over again.

TSMC is Taiwan Semiconductor, based, of course, in Taiwan. The article seems to say that Intel is buying Tower Semiconductor, based in Israel (which should also get them a majority stake in TPSCo, based in Japan). If I am mistaken or have missed something, please feel free to correct me.

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I haven't run the game itself for a while, but the benchmark in the native version runs fine for me and it's easy to get good framerates at 1080p (except on the Aya Neo Pro which has a lower resolution screen) on just about anything I throw at it. I have run it on the following hardware, and being as old as it is, it definitely runs faster than the newer installments of Tomb Raider, despite their use of Vulkan:

Aya Neo Pro (so 1280x800)
Ryzen 5 3600X with Radeon RX560 4GB
Intel Xeon E3-1245 v3 low profile workstation with RX560 or Radeon Pro WX3100 (essentially the same as the RX560, but clocked a bit lower so falls just a bit short in performance comparison).
Intel I5 4570 with the same GPUs as the Xeon above.

Of course it runs fine on the Ryzen 5 with a Vega 56 or my main gaming computer at highest settings and 1440p as well.

Edit: Also, it's been a long time since I have regularly used an NVIDIA GPU, but when I tested it on the Xeon listed above with a GTX 1650, it also seemed to run fine. That was in 2019 2020 when I was upgrading an old office machine to give my nephew for gaming (it ended up with Windows 10, but my initial testing was with Linux).

2nd Edit: I meant to add that I played through the whole thing on my Ryzen 7 1700 with a Vega 56 on the highest settings at 1440p with no unusual issues back when I first played it.

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One of the biggest shortcomings of running ChimeraOS on existing handheld PCs at the moment seems to be no interface for adjusting things that could result in power savings. There is not even a simple way to adjust the screen brightness much less the TDP. I'm wondering what effect the release of SteamOS 3 will have on this. I suspect that a lot of SteamOS 3 is going to make an appearance in ChimeraOS. Of course, the power saving features of SteamOS 3 so far are specifically for the Steam Deck. How long it will take those features to work with any given alternate handheld PC is anybody's guess. It may be that it won't take much to get them to work with another AMD APU. Then again, we don't know. Even if it doesn't, how much more work will it be to make them work well with Intel devices?

One interesting thing about ChimeraOS on the Intel handheld PCs, though, is that they don't seem to have as many GPU driver issues on Chimera as they do on Windows.

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Quoting: denyasisI know it's trendy in certian circles to use that language, complete with that spelling and phrasing, but....

Maybe I'm just becoming a grumpy old person.

I'm with you. I've had people in my family die of cancer and related diseases, but I've never said that word, and I certainly don't intend to start now. I find the name of the bundle off-putting regardless of the cause.

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Quoting: t3gNot sure if you are trolling or not, a Nvidia GTX 970 that I had back in 2014 supports Vulkan.

Well, up until recently, I was considering removing the RX 560 in a secondary computer that I have and replacing it with an R7 270 that I have available.* If I did that, however, I would have to use kernel parameters to force the use of the amdgpu driver rather than the radeon driver to get any Vulkan support. I'm pretty sure that in some places there are people who would love to upgrade to an R7 270. I know there are people on old Intel hardware that doesn't support Vulkan. I don't know if there is any realistic hope of running Dota 2 acceptably on hardware that is that old/underpowered though.

*(This is no longer a consideration since I now have a Vega 56 card available for this machine.)

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The memory that ships in this thing is 2400 MHz. I would expect that it could handle 3200 MHz RAM (though the specifications don't mention it). If I were going to get one, I'd probably get the lowest memory configuration I could and then just replace it with 3200 MHz memory. It should make a significant performance difference, especially GPU performance, on this APU. It seems it would put it a bit closer to the actual performance of the Steam Deck.

Edit: I checked into this, and apparently the firmware does not support changing memory speeds, so you may as well use the 2400 MHz RAM that comes with it, if you are still interested in the machine.

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Many times why you will see a lower price for Windows on the same hardware as Linux is because shovelware publishers pay the company to put their shovelware on Windows pre-builds so the OEM makes some of its money there on Windows machines, but not on Linux ones.

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I bought this game through Desura. I couldn't buy it directly from Unigine because my debit card did not allow international transactions (even with Canada). I eventually got another copy from Humble Bundle. I remember how great this looked at the time on my AMD HD 7870. The game came out a little before the card so I think I ran it first on my laptop, which I think had a Mobility Radeon HD 4530 (I don't remember for sure; it might have been a 4830).

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Quoting: syylkWell, most Blizzard products were known to run well under WINE since dirt was invented - to the point of speculating if somebody internally was smoothing them at the edges on purpose to keep some sort of unsupported-but-working compatibility...

Wasn't speculation. In the past the WoW team did implement things here and there to smoothen running it in Wine. I don't have a source to hand but it was in public postings from their team on their official forum.

Possibly goes back to when Sam Lantinga worked there.

i remember reading somewhere that blizard had an internal build of warcraft running on linux, people especulated that they plan to relase it soon, years have passed and nothing happened, i always assumed that the linux comunity miss interpret the news, an headless server without any graphical pipeline to draw stuff on screen became "it has an native linux port, blizzard might relase it at any moment" only false hopes to convince people to not giveup on linux...
but now, reading this, i think their build was true, it just wasnt native...

I remember the rumor about Blizzard having a native Linux build of WoW that some of the developers used. The way I heard it at the time was that there was practically zero chance of it ever being released. The company didn't want to get involved with such a small market, and Linux users could always use Wine, which they tried to make sure would work, but without any official support. I don't know if it was true or not.

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