Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Alm888No SteamOS vs. Windows benchmarks. What a pity. :(

I kinda want to know how this "SteamOS" fares against an established gaming OS with games made first and foremost for said OS.

Windows isn't ready. Last I was told by Valve the drivers are not out yet. That's if I even wanted to touch Windows with it.

Well, you, as a Linux user, would probably not want to touch Windows. But, as you've stated, this Steam Deck is not aimed at Linux users. It is made for ordinary people. And after all those people find out only 700+ of games from the entire Steam library are actually playable (and most, I assume, would not dare purchase a game blindly without that precious "Verified" badge), I believe, "How to Fix Deck and Install Windows 11" will be the most popular question.

What these people are to expect? How difficult is Windows installation process? Does Deck have the required TPM chip?

After all, Valve has promised one will be able to install Windows and play all the games (because, again, according to Valve Steam Deck is just an ordinary PC).

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No SteamOS vs. Windows benchmarks. What a pity. :(

I kinda want to know how this "SteamOS" fares against an established gaming OS with games made first and foremost for said OS.

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Quoting: Frawo

Quoting: Alm888So, yes, GOG is correct, one will be able to play GOG's amazing library on Steam Deck. Even if the solution is not for said one's taste.

Of course you will be able to play your GOG Games on Steam Deck (who had a doubt about that anyway)... if you don't mind fiddling around in Desktop Mode on a tiny screen, with no regular mouse, no dynamic cloud sync, limited controller support (unless you add your games to Steam). No thanks, that's not the OOTB experience I'm looking for.

Just as planned.

1. A user goes through a process of installing Windows on Deck (driver issues?).
2. The user goes through a process of running GOG games on Deck (DOSBox + Deck's gamepads?).
3. The user records this convoluted mess and releases a YouTube video, stating Steam Deck is unusable.
4. ???????
5. PROFIT!!

Quoting: FrawoIf GOG wants to profit from the Steam Deck, I would expect them to offer at least some basic integration tools. Installing GOG in its current state on the Steam Deck is like buying a Ferrari and installing a two-stroke engine in it.

GOG does not want to profit from Steam Deck. It wants to topple it. At the very least, a Steam Deck is another platform, adding a headache to GOG's "tech support" (imagine what troubles will arise when the support will be flooded with numerous "Deck+Windows" GOG users' support requests due to issues with controllers for DOSBox-wrapped games). And at the worst case scenario, Steam Deck will divert users from GOG towards Steam. So, the quicker Steam Deck flops the better (for GOG).

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Quoting: elmapulits not about the ammount(sic) of games, but the time you spend playing then, its worth?
there are tons of free games for android that, while they are free, they dont(sic) worth our time. time is the most important thing in life, money? you can won on lotery(sic) and get rich and never need to worry about it again, but time? you cant recover that, and you only realize when its too late.
yes, i'm talking about myself.

Are you serious right now?

So, having a loot run in "Project Zomboid" or building an empire in "X4: Foundations" is somehow worthless, while shooting General Barkovs and G-12s at the "Death Road" or smashing Lenin statues while reading some weepy notes of "GULAG victims" in "Tomb Raider" is a worthwhile activity? Are you implying there are "True Gamers" playing only the best games, while my ex-boss (for example) playing some chess on his "Windows 98" PC at lunch breaks every day just wastes his time on garbage?

Please, come to your senses! We are discussing games, effectively a time wasters, no matter what appearance they have. There are no "must play" "cult classic" games, only those that are fun (to you) and those that are not. And "AAA" does not make a game fun. Expensive? Sure. Resource-demanding? Most probably (those GPUs won't sell themselves, after all). But fun? Nope.

I say it again: good riddance! Good bye to "lootboxes", "game passes", "microtransactions", "always-online DRM" and other exciting attributes of modern "AAA games".

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Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: Alm888

Quoting: KimyrielleI know, some people are still clinging to the "No Tux, No Bux" mantra, but in reality, we're unlikely to see another major AAA game on Linux native anytime soon.

And I'd say "Good riddance!".
NTNB FTW all the way!

i hope you at least play the games even if you have to pirate then, otherwise the only one losing will be yourself, and you will regreat(sic) it later looking back.

Rest assured, I have more than I will ever be able to finish. All Linux native. Most on GOG, some on itch.io or Humble. Had not to "pirate" a game in a long time (sinse 2012 at least). Oh, and I have exactly 0 (zero) "Feral games" on my Steal library because… I have no Steam library.

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Quoting: KimyrielleI know, some people are still clinging to the "No Tux, No Bux" mantra, but in reality, we're unlikely to see another major AAA game on Linux native anytime soon.

And I'd say "Good riddance!".
NTNB FTW all the way!

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Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: TheRiddickCDPR GOG still upset with Linux user base I see. They NEVER did recover from those Witcher2 threats certain extremists made...

Were those threats ever verified with real evidence that everyone got to see (other than maybe a tweet) ?

AFAIK, all of these "revelations" come from "Jaycee1980", a fired (now "ex-")employee from Virtual Programming, who was very vocal on all news outlets (here, steamcommunity, reddit, twitter etc.). Sounded plausible, so people just went along with that.

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How ironic.
Feral made all of its business model around Steam as a platform (up to refusing to release its ports elsewhere)… only to be "betrayed" (if such a term is even applicable to a business venture) and forsaken by the very Steam itself.

The fact that Feral's ports are timed sub-contracts with British game studious (yes, is Feral, as is Creative Assembly, a British company and apparently likes to stick to "home shores") does not help in any way, as now it would be exceedingly difficult to persuade right-holders to renew said sub-contracts. Because, why? Why would you, as a game developer, ever allow some porter to make a Linux version and get some % of every sell for Linux if you can… not allow that to happen and get 100% of Linux sales (through Proton) for yourself?

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Quoting: Koopacabras

QuoteThere's no official GOG support for SteamDeck. But since the device has an open architecture, as we understand, you can install Windows and as such also run GOG games.

What a nonsensical reply that only makes sense for people that run Windows. Even for a Mac user, installing a whole new OS just for running games is not an option.

Quoting: eldakingDang it, that is a new low. When they prefer to tell people to install Windows than talk about the games they already have for Linux, you know things are bad.

Aww, come on! They have a point, you know. It is just your Linux-centrism that keeps you from seeing it. :)

I'll explain. GOG representatives have not answered Linux-users' inquire; they have replied to Steam-user's (and, as they hope, soon-to-be-GOG-user's) question about GOG platform availability on Steam Deck. The answer makes total sense!

GOG sells Windows games, right? Right. GOG Galaxy is all about Windows, right? Yup. (Let's pretend MacOS does not exist, it is not that GOG has any plans to support "Holy Apple Silicon" or ARM architecture in general anyways). Can one install Windows on Steam Deck and get access to GOG Galaxy and all of the GOG's library? Absolutely! Will this "GOG Galaxy on Windows Deck" setup get GOG's full official support? That is correct (it will, as any other Windows PC with GOG Galaxy on it).

Remember, the original inquirer has not asked for Linux support:

Quoting: Metal Jesus Rocks @ TwitterHey @GOGcom: Have you announced support for the upcoming Valve Steam Deck? Is that even possible? I will be reviewing it for YouTube when it launches and I'd LOVE to be able to play your amazing library on it if possible.

(emphasis added by me)

So, yes, GOG is correct, one will be able to play GOG's amazing library on Steam Deck. Even if the solution is not for said one's taste.

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Steam Deck Verified. Linux is not supported.

A nice example that "Steam Deck support" /= "Linux support".

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