Quoting: Liam DaweCurrently GOG does not have a Linux build.

Well, in fact, GOG does have a Linux build (and I can confirm personally, the installer is up-to-date and not dead). It is just that GOG, being GOG, failed to add the Linux logo. Again.

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Well, he is right.

WINE allows dll side-loading, so one can easily use a modded d3dx100500.dll with some functions (like drawing of walls or other effects) dummied-out and a modified custom Linux kernel would report everything is fine. User's access to kernel is a 0-level vulnerability in the "trust-chain". That is why WINE/Linux is not, and shall never be treated as "secure" platform. All hopes that a "client-side" anti-cheat will be a thing on WINE are just pipe dreams.

Linux and client-side anti-cheat systems are antithetical to each other as the very ideology of client-side anti-cheat measures is to strip user of any control of one's personal computer. From "trusted computing", through cryptographic measures down to "security through obscurity" concept. And Linux in particular and Open Source in general are against it all (see "libdvdcss").

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First thought crossing my mind upon seeing the news: "Let me guess, 'Linux version is not yet available on GOG right now'?"

Nope, not this time.

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He doesn't like, care or even know about Linux.

He likes money. And Steam Deck is an opportunity to make even more money without doing anything, and that is great (for him at least). :)

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Quoting: kneekoo…

I do not understand why you are trying to persuade me "I don't want what I want ant want what I do not want".
Yes, I do not want to see any games not supporting Linux.
Yes, I am fine not seeing any news if the only "news" GOG shows do not concern me.
No, I do not want to know about Windows-exclusive game releases. Nor do I care about Windows-exclusive "flash deals".
No, I do not think GOG's site would look terrible without all Windows-exclusive stuff being shoved down my throat. GOG's site is terrible as is.

No, I do not care whether a game in question "Runs Great With Proton" or not (not that GOG has any intentions to start providing this kind of information in its "release news" any time soon). If, for some wicked reasons, I would start to wonder whether some particular Windows-exclusive game is available on GOG or not, I would use the search page. But no, GOG thinks I am experiencing delight in shoving aside tons of windows-exclusive "release news" in order not to miss the one in fifty Linux release news. No I am not! If things continue the way they are now, I'd rather stop paying any attention to GOG site at all and will visit it only to check for updates or if I've heard about a game elsewhere and want to inquire about its availability on GOG (but even then, I'd rather use the quick search field).

Quoting: kneekooThe Steam client made it easy to toggle the display of platform-supported games (in your library) some while ago, and the client remembers that setting. But of course this is different from browsing the store. Steam does allow you to only see games for the platform(s) you're interested in, but they have a different format - no news of their own, like GOG have. Besides, Steam has over 20K Linux-compatible titles (compared to 4095 titles as a whole on GOG), so not having news and having so many games for each platform makes it easy to only show certain stuff.

GOG would have to do some rather invasive changes on their website to allow for what you'd like. That's not to say it wouldn't be useful to some people, but at least at this point in time it feels unrealistic for them to tackle something this big.

Funny thing, GOG in fact does filter content by OS. If you try to browse the Galaxy promo page with your User-Agent string indicating anything Linux-related, you won't be able to even see download links there.



See? No download link. Yes, GOG can and will block content based on your OS of choice on its site. But user's wishes mean nothing to GOG.

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Quoting: kneekooTake another look. There's an "Operating Systems" filter where you can check Linux and only those entries will be shown.

AFAICR, this was available before. The selection is not persistent. Besides, Windows-titles will still be shown on the main page, along with promo-newsletters. There is no way to set the "show me Linux stuff exclusively" setting in your profile.

Quoting: kneekooBy the way, Steam doesn't have an OS-focused newsletter either. If you add something in your wishlist, they will notify you when those get discounted.

Again, AFAICR some time ago people complained they can not see Windows titles in their (Linux-native) Steam-clients unless they checked the "Show Me Unsupported Titles" checkbox (and apparently this setting was hidden well enough to mandate several Reddit HOW_TO-s). This was before Proton™ though, so I do not know how it is now.

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I fail to see any renovations.

Well, maybe there are some (I honestly can not remember how things were before, mainly because I hardly ever used this store page), but one feature I want is absent.

The ability to filter-out all games lacking Linux support.

I do not want to see any release news of games not relevant to my OS. Not in the release "ribbon" at the bottom of main page, not in my e-mail spa^W "newsletters" and promo-offerings, not in the store library. As far as I know, it is so by default on Steam (do not know for sure due to lack of Steam account), yet GOG keeps feeding me with Windows-exclusive titles forcing myself to manually probe every new release for OS compatibility (a bit of information that is omitted in the release articles and only present on actual game pages). Very tedious.

Sorry GOG, no banana today.

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Quoting: WorMzyOh, whoops, I thought making the game available for purchase on a digital game store meant they meant they wanted people to purchase it. My bad, I clearly misinterpreted their actions. They put the game up on Steam because they wanted people to.. uhhh.. re-evaluate their understanding of renaissance art, or something.

Well, yes. They are selling their game on Steam™ (a store) for Windows® (an operating system). And they are quite open about it. It is literary (well, more like graphically) depicted on the store page. And they never made any attempts to enforce their Windows-game onto Linux users.

Quoting: poiuzYou're throwing your money into their pockets like you've got no choice. Clearly you don't care about a Linux port so why should the developers?

Quoting: WorMzyI'm not sure where you got the idea that I'm throwing money into this developer's pockets, but I can assure you that I'm not. No Tux, no bux; as the saying goes. I want developers to support Linux gamers, not just profit from them.

You both are right in a way. I don't know why are you arguing.
The developers never intended to sell their game to Linus users. And yes, they will benefit financially from both "Linux gamers" and Open Source technologies. Thanks to Valve propagating Proton™ technology (taking advantage from WINE project), "Linux gamers'" willfulness to pay for a Windows game and one Linux gaming news site author/admin giving the game a spotlight; please note however, he wrote one can buy the game on Steam and Humble Store, not one ought to do so.

P.S. In order to sweeten the medicine I want to remind everyone that a game is not all about code or OS'es. A game is a multimedia product composed of: sound, script, voice acting, level design, visual assets and so on. And most of those have nothing to do with code or Win32 API, so most of the price paid for a Windows game actually goes for artists' work, not OS compatibility.

P.P.S. I personally will never purchase this game. Not even if it goes Linux-native-freeware. Not my cup of vodka.

P.P.P.S. I also do not drink vodka. :)

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Quoting: scaineBut since I don't own Windows, all Windows games are just Proton games. Maybe that distinction will go away as the Deck releases and matures, but until then, a Proton game (for me) is a Windows game that works on Linux. If it doesn't, I don't care about it at all.

I am on developer's POV here. If a developer targets a Windows release and gets revenue from a Windows version, it is a Windows sale, no matter which OS will be used to actually run the software.

Now, if a developer was to officially target Proton™ as a platform and provide full support (from refunds to technical troubleshooting), that would be another song entirely. In this case we would be right to introduce "Proton Game" term. This might still happen, albeit I don't think it would be called that. "Steam Deck Title" is more like it.

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Quoting: BlooAlienNice. Another Proton game wishlisted for me.

There are no such things as "Proton Games". Only Windows games. This game was developed for Windows™ and for Windows only. :P

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