A laptop with NVidia is a waste of money for someone who works with Linux.

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Quoting: PenglingA fellow GOL'er showed me this a couple of days ago: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/save-dollardollardollar-on-the-rog-ally-by-resetting-and-trading-in-your-steam-deck-gaming-handheld/ar-AA1b4Wka [External Link]

How convenient! :wink:

I hoped that Microsoft would change. But it seems I do have to migrate anything on github away from github as Microsoft still seems to be this incredible FUD poison. They literally made hell for me for 30 years starting with their crap that they called operating system. As a software developer I ended up maintaining client pc's because of this CRAP OS instead of delivering software that tracks pollution in the ground, in that time rather unique.
Then they started to shit FUD all over us Linux users, while I as an agnostic mostly unix type user needed Unix and Linux systems due to severe lack of working compilers from and for Microsoft platforms.
The more I stepped away from that terrible microsoft world, the harder they began to scream.
In hindsight: a linux system would have cut down development time by years and it would still work today. But the world changed into a world were you had to keep your network open to crap, despite microsoft trying hard to monopolize networking by staying away from tcp/ip.
f*ck... I need to stop ranting.
But even now: I setup incredible cloud systems that are capable of running loads of vms and containers, yet these windows developers can not think any further than everything and all needs to be running on the sql server vm and hence the sql server vm needs to have *all* resources of the cloud and then they are angry because they did nothing to prevent crap filling the disks and they can't reindex the tables now and are angry that despite them filling all of the cloud they can not quickly order some usb disk to attach to the server so they can do backups.
Really the mind of most windows developers are so constrained because they never are able to venture outside their desktop.
The difference between "The Network is the Computer" and "My desktop is the Computer".
Sh*t I ranted again. 30 years of microsoft fud.

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Quoting: FurysparkRegardless of what this may or may not entail, there is nothing you can do or say to me that makes me believe patents and copyright aren't the love children of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao Zedong.

IDK. Copyright ils definitely way too long, and it's absurd that it outlasts patents.

Patents (in software) takes away the right of others to do R&D and develop new software and cash in on that R&D. Copyright allows you to protect your design.
This is especially true in software.
A lot of patents in the USA are laughable and have prior art. For instance the patents that NVidia used to destroy 3DFX were things I learned on school, so that's about 15 years prior.
People supporting patents are usually people that are not smart enough to do smart things, or don't want innovation but full control and lots of money for little innovation.
The most important thing is the TRIPS agreement which states that patents should only be used in a market if it would help innovation in that market.
The USA is the biggest offender of the TRIPS agreement and wants the rest of the world to suffer the same faith.
So why does the USA do that? Well, the USA is a land of opportunities if you have a lot of money: you can lobby that your TRIPS violations are tolerated, and you can lobby the government that other countries should follow that.

Oh boy... I am back at my 2003 ranting about the attempts from big money to get frivolous patents in the EU.
And yes, we assume that Bill Gates was a supporter for that.

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Half rant:

I remember the time that a colleague invested a lot of time for a bug report towards Microsoft about an SNA library, complete with instructions on how to fix the library, as these fixes were necessary for certification of the total (banking) solution.
The last I heard from him was that it took more than 6 months for a reply. I already left there. And the reply was: thank you, we acknowledge this is an issue, and we are going to look at in the future. Nobody profited from that, except Microsoft. As they could easily ignore certified technology partners, and still charge them hefty Microsoft tax.

And now people/companies are working together to fix bugs and optimize render paths and *everyone* and every company profits (monetary wise), including those that co-operated on fixing that, because their primary product is "that game" or "the console", and the buyers are those that buy "the console" to play "that game". That's bringing tears to my eyes.
Even GDP wins if they put an AMD inside with Linux Arch or SteamOS.

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Quoting: EikeI take it as "You're probably Linux user because Windows is... suboptimal." Which is fun to read, but not fun enough to make Linux users wanting to play the game happy.

Exactly. Windows is a crime to have to program for. There are so fucking insane many possibilities to have it go wrong. And it has a lot to do with layers upon layers of compatibility of a fucked up OS API.
As roger rabbit said:
Let me count the official ways I can perform a write to a file, or even open.

To be clear: I was at a crossroads 25 years ago: Let windows NT into my life or not. I gave it a fair chance, even at the highest of the FUD wars.
Today the only real purpose in my life is to get rid of windows systems in favor of more service, happiness and less costs for the clients.
These days any windows server release still can not do network wise what any linux system could already do 25 years ago. It really is tragic that it does not progress and still knows how to get money out of people.
The only real in windows progress does not come from Microsoft, but from AMD, NVIDIA and Valve as they keep the gaming on windows alive, and that's about the only thing that keeps windows into households, and with the big amount of lobbying and "I know that OS" keeps it in the offices.

Ah shit, I still went full rant again. Sorry.

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It's good that it's now marked unsupported, but it should mark it's unsupported on PC in general, as I get the idea from those that play on windows that it just plain sucks. And it sucks so hard that Naughty Dog apologized for the current state it is in.

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That game was stunning and still is pretty good. Nice physics. I've been base building a lot in that game.
Just free swimming and driving my sub from base to base.
It was so light I would have hoped they would port it to gear-vr...
(It uses java-gl so you have to install openjdk 8 on linux. Didn't get it to work on the deck though).

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Quoting: TurkeysteaksAt the moment I've actually not come too close to filling up the 256GB as it is, but I have been a bit more cautious and so far still only been playing some smaller indie games. I think eventually I'll upgrade to 1TB or 2TB, but think I'd be a tad worried about damaging the deck while doing the upgrade. Interested to see if others will be upgrading it

If you have ARK: survival evolved you will need about 300GB. If you put that on uSD, it will take literally over an hour to patch if there is an update to download. It's not the downloading, it's the patching of the full binary :-(. When I bought it, it was just an indie game in pre-alpha stage (somewhere in 2014, 2015?). I still use that world.

The best part of ifixit is that they are all street prices. $303 for a 2TB SSD kit is almost normal for an 2280, and we are talking about 2230...

But yeah, I know what you mean. I am already on age, and I'd rather pay someone else to do it than having to do it myself. For me that's actually cheaper. It's the sole reason I went with the 512GB version.
I did the same with my phone, paid a 250 euro extra not for the camera but for about 400GB of extra ufs. Worth every euro I spent on the extra capacity.

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Gamescope is just a generic layer. So yes, it will have support for VR on the deck if that support is needed in Gamescope. It would be foolish to have a VR specific build of gamescope, because then you will have 2 versions to maintain.
I mean: the deck has also support for iscsi, fcoe, dj controllers. It would be foolish to step away too far from a vanilla setup because it is hard to maintain.
The only special thing about the linux kernel is that it has patches for the deck that are not yet in vanilla.
So why would they make seperate builds for gamescope.
If anything: we now know that deckard runs linux and gamescope (we already knew it runs linux, now we know it runs gamescope too).
I wish gamescope became so generic (It can't because it uses vulkan standards that they have yet to submit as a standard), that I already could run it on my desktop.

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Quoting: Cmdr_IrasInteresting project; though I have of course just swapped my Nvidia GTX1070 for a AMD RX 6700XT.

I look at it like this:
Time that I spend on my computer having fun is time well spend.
Time that I spend on my computer fixing nvidia shit is time I should have gotten paid. So that's time that I loose money, because I could have just worked in that time and get paid. And my job is a lot more fun than fixing proprietary shit, or trying the latest opensource drivers for hardware of a company that has no intention to help.
So I choose to do real work (that I like), getting paid real money, that I can spend on a Valve supported card and having fun time with it.
The last nvidia mistake I made was in 2016 when I bought a steam machine.
The last nvidia incident I got was a few years later, when I returned my refurbished thinkpad for repair and I got one with an unwanted nvidia power sink returned. The intel HD4000 performs better than the nvidia, because intel supports their stuff.

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