Well , i guess Lovecraftian horrors would be a toxic relationship

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Hope i see my name in the credits for backers :tongue:

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Quoting: CybolicIt's honestly baffling to me how both the games and the audience seem perfectly fine with fantasy cock/dog fights; am I missing something?

I really hope so, because my faith in human kind is alerady at minimum levels.
I've ethical problems with factorio too which seems a great game from the demo.
DAMN!

I was going to hold off on saying something because i was concerned how the conversation would go but ...
Let me play devil's advocate for a bit.
It's a game.
It's not real.
GTA has you play a gangster that can run over civilians and police officers by the hundreds. Nobody who plays that game wants to do that in real life.
I recently played Underrail where one mission for a proto-fascist faction asked me to gas some rebels. That doesn't mean I'm ok with crimes against humanity.
I don't mean to seem disrispectful but it really does sound the same as the argument that playing D&D puts you in league with the devil.

Yes yes, i know it is a game and it is not real, that's the first thing i wrote in my first reply, but imho the real fun is when game and reality blends, i like to be empathic with a group of pixels, yes.
For me, gaming is immersion; i don't like to play just for the sake of finish the game and i don't like gaming if i cannot impersonate the character.
I remember when i was a kid playing adventures without actually progressing in the story, but i was so fully immersed in the virtual world, that just walking into it was a lot of fun.
Now things are turning different, and my imagination isn't that way anymore, so i really need to like the character to pretend i am him, or else, no fun.

Quoting myself:

[...]my faith in human kind is alerady at minimum levels.[...]

Sorry for that, i can understand that other people are better than me in having fun in doing bad things they never should do in real life.

Uhm dude , nobody is saying they are better than you.
I personally just disagree with your reasoning on this one topic , that's all.
If you think the game bothers you or is a bad influence on your children , by all means avoid it. No beef from me on that front.
I can understand immersion but i guess it is on a case by case basis. Someone might be repulsed by a game like GTA or Mortal Kombat , someone might not even notice the violence or context and just aim for the highest points.

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Was the engine to the original Thimbleweed Park ever released to the public ?
Was always curios to tinker in that.
And since the game has a linux candidate was hoping the engine works under it as well.

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Quoting: razing32

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: CybolicIt's honestly baffling to me how both the games and the audience seem perfectly fine with fantasy cock/dog fights; am I missing something?

I really hope so, because my faith in human kind is alerady at minimum levels.
I've ethical problems with factorio too which seems a great game from the demo.
DAMN!

I was going to hold off on saying something because i was concerned how the conversation would go but ...
Let me play devil's advocate for a bit.
It's a game.
It's not real.
GTA has you play a gangster that can run over civilians and police officers by the hundreds. Nobody who plays that game wants to do that in real life.
I recently played Underrail where one mission for a proto-fascist faction asked me to gas some rebels. That doesn't mean I'm ok with crimes against humanity.
I don't mean to seem disrispectful but it really does sound the same as the argument that playing D&D puts you in league with the devil.

I get your point but I don't usually enjoy games that portray realistic violence as "fun" either unless the setting or presentation puts it firmly in make-believe territory. As for D&D, I still wouldn't enjoy a campaign where the focus was to enslave and abuse non-humanoid creatures, just like I imagine most people wouldn't (reactions to animals getting hurt in film or animation is a good example) - I'm just surprised that it seems that the thin veneer of "no no, these animals enjoy mauling each other" is enough for most people to not have that same gut reaction.

I respect that.
Context does matter and how violence is portraied matters.
This game is not out yet , so can't really say what the context will be.
As for other franchises like Pokemon , not really sure. Haven't been that big a fan over the years to really say. But i recall the pokemon could not be forced and they were stubborn to their trainers. The whole vibe i got as a kid was a kind of boxing setting where you train the fighters. Maybe the developers of such games side step the more unsavory aspects or maybe we are reading to much into them.

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Quoting: CybolicIt's honestly baffling to me how both the games and the audience seem perfectly fine with fantasy cock/dog fights; am I missing something?

I really hope so, because my faith in human kind is alerady at minimum levels.
I've ethical problems with factorio too which seems a great game from the demo.
DAMN!

I was going to hold off on saying something because i was concerned how the conversation would go but ...
Let me play devil's advocate for a bit.
It's a game.
It's not real.
GTA has you play a gangster that can run over civilians and police officers by the hundreds. Nobody who plays that game wants to do that in real life.
I recently played Underrail where one mission for a proto-fascist faction asked me to gas some rebels. That doesn't mean I'm ok with crimes against humanity.
I don't mean to seem disrispectful but it really does sound the same as the argument that playing D&D puts you in league with the devil.

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I used to love playing Orcs Must Die 2 with my mates back in the day.
But there is no way in heck I'm buying a Stadia release for this game.
Sad they plan to port it only to windows afterwards :(

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Reminds me of Icy of all things.
Not that that was a bad game.
Let's see how it plays when it releases.

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If they pick up the best elements of all three of those games something interesting could come of it.

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This reminds me of a demo i played of a game with Rob Schneider called "A fork in the tale"
Was a silly little game but not sure if it ever got fully released
Think i may have seen some full versions "unofficially"

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