Nice Ethan has ported some the best games over to linux his custom tools almost allow drag in porting for xna developed games. Good to see him on board getting some of that valve money smart by codeweavers to sign him up and use valve money to pay him. Proton/wine development and dxvk is amazing its gone from being workable with a metric ton of patches in a lot of games and numerous work arounds to plug and play with a ton of titles including skyrim, dishonoured etc.

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question on mesa performance and mad max i have a 4gb rx 550 being used on friend windows build. He has decided he wants to try out linux but he gets about 55/60 fps at 1080p med on windows 10. I have no experience mesa under linux as i have always had nvidia cards what sort of frame rate should he expect i understand there will be some performance loss but will it tank it below a playable steady 30 fps ?

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Quoting: KimyrielleThe bigger overall concern about this is why, as a society, we think market concentration is a good thing and accept it so readily, when everyone who ever read past the preface of a economics textbook knows that market concentration is bad?

I don't get that.

Companies buying other companies should be something that's allowed only in exceptional circumstances.

But hey, we don't seem to have a problem with a half dozen mega-corporations pretty much controlling Earth's food supply, so video games are probably fine to be controlled by a monopoly, too.

*shrug*

Well if you want to panic Nestle/coca cola control 85 percent of the worlds water supply and the ceo of nestle say water is not a human right. But apart from that depressing fact mergers happen because its human nature, people say no why did you do that well greed and the desire to look out for number 1.
Picture yourself a manager of obsidian your games are critically well recieved but niche games with some exceptions, you have a great reputation for crafting a world but making buggy games. The last two kickstarter games barely got made(underesitmation of costs) and strong sales kept the studio open Your creative team don't want to do another sequel you cant find a publisher willing to fund your development teams you realize without outside investment you are going to be out of work and your team is going to be out of work.

MS pops up with big bags of cash tells you you will have a senior role in MS games division unlimited resources and you can keep your team together and they look forward to hearing your ideas because MS is desperate for exclusives for the next XBOX. So in that case not only do you make a profit for yourself and perhaps a pay bump you secured massive resources for your studio and you secured the jobs of your development staff. It's cost you being an independent studio fans will be pissed on the internet but that wont last since people get bored if a news story goes on for more than a day and actively attack people that bring up x company did something shitty because they are bored of hearing about it.

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Interesting does the dxvk team/indvidiual now directly work for valve because if he does they are the hardest working team there update after update performance fixes great stuff. Its amazing to go from 2013/2014 steam linux beta client to now you can play skyrim with controller support out of the box on linux along way from the days of the loki ports and years of dark places open source projects (I am not knocking them Xenotic is still fun) but its a long way from that to fallout 4 approaching playablilty under linux.

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Quoting: GuestI still think Valve should release a SteamOS/Linux exclusive title, say, for a month, before hitting losedoze. If you want to play it within the first month you'll have to do it on SteamOS/Linux. Would shake things up a bit for sure.

More than anything, it would be a shot across the bow that doesn't just threaten the Windows/Microsoft Store's potential monopoly, but would threaten Windows' existing monopoly itself if any AAA title was a SteamOS/Linux exclusive.

Granted, I know most people hate platform/OS exclusives. But literally everyone else has done it except SteamOS/Linux (ok, excluding the small FOSS games out there). What better way to show the market potential; or better, to show that for many gamers, there's no such thing as platform/OS loyalty if there's an awesome game out there to be played.

Fairly soon, there'll be a day where enough devs use cross-platform tools and APIs. Compilers and Debuggers will work the same for all targeted platforms, API calls work the same across all platforms (Vulkan<3<3<3). Middleware won't rely on some archaic, unstable and proprietary framework that is only supported on the big OS.

We're not there yet, and have a ways to go. But look at how far we've come?

Valve wont do that thought the bigger market by far is on the windows platform they would lose so much money making a big game like half life 3 linux exclusive. The issue is if they did that you would get a bunch of dual booters the majority of which would ditch linux as soon as they finish the game.

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Yeah saw it coming if it wasnt microsoft it was going to be zenimax, cant stay independent it seems these days and stay competative with big triple a games same as Ninja theory. A real shame but not a surprise.

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"With Vulkan they now make ports every bit as good as windows native I believe. Every game these days needs patches and I would
assume Linux even more so since there are so many distros and desktop uis to consider. They deserve Linux gamers support which is more than I can say for some of the other porting companies.[/quote]Yeah they do deserve support however there business model is ports if they were crap at porting they wouldnt have a business model. Feral do good work if its a single player game and Feral ported it i know it will work however VP & Aspyr when they supported linux managed to include cross platform mp in a number of titles Feral to this date still havent managed it not sure whether that is a bi produce of their indirectx wrapper or if its a contract permissions thing.

But yeah I hope Feral stick around I know many on this forum seem to think that they will be around for years to come. But with Proton and steam play the question that most not all but most publishers will ask is why should i pay someone to licence and port our game. When i can do nothing not have to pay any fees and as a bonus, i do not have to offer support to linux and mac users that buy our game net loss to company 0 profit 100 percent.

What's more and am sure people will disagree with my points here but Feral seem to know it at well its why they keep hedging their bets with mobile ports of triple a games so even if mac and linux go away they will still have mobile. Maybe am wrong they have brought out games this year and seem to be busy and they are hiring

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Quoting: GuestSay what you will about Feral and all of the Total War ports but they make a damn fine port. Rise of the Tomb Raider I think works even better on Linux with Vulkan than it did on Windows 10. I will probably get any native port they make.

Without checking your specs i am willing to bet AMD graphics card ? because Rise ran like trash on 1060 for about a month and half on linux its fixed now that is one of the things i credit feral with when there is a problem with performance or gameplay they patch it and tell people what they are doing to fix it and roughly how long it will take. Compare that with other companies that shit out ports and then go radio silent on support until people complain so loud they have to do something.

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Quoting: theghostGuess I have to give the whole Total War saga thing another try as so much content is coming.
I rage-uninstalled "Total War: Warhammer" after losing the Empire campaign several times on normal. :D

Let's hope they changed their DLC policy a bit.

I never had a problem with any of the total war games but i love micro manging my settlements and building an unbeatable economy and army before then i either annex or invade each province. Mmmm rts game based on Romance of the three kingdoms (if you exclude the clunky turn based versions) is the first time they have done something like this with the story in the west.

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Quoting: lqe5433Wine is only working with X.org, and X.org will be replaced with Wayland really soon, so I don't see the point of this. Games should use SDL2 on Linux, or Wine needs to use Wayland.

You may want wayland to replace xorg really soon but its not happening for at least three to five years that will give the wayland team to you know fix it so its useable with games.

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