Quoting: fedotixIn my dreams, .....
Call OF Duty
Or
Battlefield
Or some good FPS ...

If you mean story based fps i agree we could use more.If you mean multiplayer there are plenty of death match fps games on linux. I would prefer a native version of warface rather than cod to be honest but i get cod and bf have more mainstream appeal.

But linux does have some good native fps games not all games have a narrative but most do (Bioshock infinite,metro and 2013 shadow warrior) theres also ironmaiden (indie classic fps style)Doom 3 Prey (2007 version) & Postal 2.

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Quoting: 3qET7rL9BdThis decision by the developer confuses me a lot.

How many Linux versions of the game have they sold? Judging by the comments here they have sold at least one. What if this was a game sold for Xbox and Playstation but it turns out the Xbox version doesn't work would it then be acceptable if the developer just dropped support for the Xbox version? I assume the developer legally have to make sure that the product they sold actually works otherwise offer refunds?

I would equivalent this with a car manufacturer finding a manufacturing error in one of their cars and issuing a full recall of all sold units meaning a full refund for everyone who bought it.

Since they they have asked Valve to whitelist the game using Proton I assume they've spent hours and hours and hours testing the game with Proton and knows the game works flawlessly with it? Right? Right? For some reason I highly doubt it mostly because the developer themselves say "and hopefully enjoy your game working on Linux again" which means they don't even know if it works with Proton.

Sigh.

I hope Valve gives them a proper response for asking them to whitelist a game they don't even now works with Proton.

I'm also guessing since the sole programmer is no longer available any bugs found in the Windows version due to them using an old version of Unity for any other reason will also go unfixed. One the one hand I guess you can't expect developers to update games after release. What you see is what you get. But what if you find a game breaking bug? I really think you should be able to expect the developer to fix problems preventing you from playing the game from start to finish.

In the end we weren't the ones deciding what platforms to release the game on, the developers did. If they now have found that the version of Unity they are using has a lot of issues on Linux and therefore decided to stop selling the game on Linux shouldn't they have found this when performing their own testing before releasing the game? To me it just seams like the developer clicked "export for Linux" without doing any sort of testing and hoped for the best. I appreciate they trying to bring their game to Linux but I do think we should be able to expect a little bit more from developers.

The decision makes sense if for example they do not have in the inhouse ability to fix the issues, and do not deem it financially viable to hire in those skills. Or two they looked at the game sales on linux and looked at the cost of support and just said its cheaper and easier to let it run via wine that way we dont even have to support it. As long as they dont dramatically change the windows code the wine version will just keep on trucking.

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I thought working with fire and steel was warhammer 2 if not its more likely to be one of the other warhammer turn based games. Shadow of tomb raider is probably a given. The previous two games but both game after at least 18 month delays so its probably too soon. Hitman 2 would be good now that IO are independent they did authorise the port of the first hitman whether they got the sales return on it to do it again is another matter.

Well it could be the Aurora engine Neverwinter nights or the original witcher games used Aurora

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80Mmm not surprised Steam play is an easy out

Not fixing a broken linux build is also an easy out.

Say if a developer REALLY wanted an easy out, and steam play wasn't a thing.. They could just as easily just not update a native linux build if they wanted out, don't ya think?

Edit: just tested my GOG version of Butcher, works just fine on a fully up to date linux mint install lol

Was the game really that broken for people? does seem like a stupid move

Whats easier and cheaper than not doing anything ?

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Mmm not surprised Steam play is an easy out

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80

Quoting: Cyba.Cowboy

Quoting: Whitewolfe80Its not the ease of the port that is the hold up its license fees when cdproject red (gog) do the deal on a game unless the developer wants their game on linux or mac its not coming to linux and mac. Now whether gog push for that is a matter to ask someone over at gog but its not my theory on it, licensing issues has been what gog has said the problem was more than once on twitter.

Yeah, but a lot of the time it is the same company that has a Linux version of a game on Steam, but not on GOG.com... And every time, it's the same argument from GOG.com - "We don't have the licensing rights to distribute the Linux version".

If it was different companies (i.e. <Company 1> selling Linux/macOS/Windows version of <Title 1> on Steam and <Company 2> selling macOS/Windows version of <Title 1> on GOG.com), I can understand completely, but it's frequently the same company... This suggests to me that GOG.com aren't pushing the Linux thing too hard.

I love that GOG.com offer DRM-free titles and I'll always buy a game there first specifically because of this reason (I don't "do" DRM anywhere unless there is a guaranteed way to remove it)... But it's things like this that remind me Valve Software does so much more for the Linux Community than GOG.com ever will.

They may well not be pushing Linux but its an interesting question maybe one that (liam) GOL can ask his contact or PR rep. There could be legit reasons whether its licence or a lack of skills required to port to linux, obiviously there are some companies that just dont want to support linux cough "zenamax bethesda" but it could also be that cdpr (gog) just dont think about a linux version when making deals I for example would love to know why jazz jackrabbit 1 is on linux yet the sequel using the same engine is not.

Jazz Jackrabbit 1 used Dos, and Dosbox emulator has native linux support. Jazz Jackrabbit 2 was a Windows 95 game

Yeah i get its easier but jazz jackrabbit 2 runs under wine with full controller support with no configuration and its not like gog are above wine wrappers.

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80There could be legit reasons whether its licence or a lack of skills required to port to linux

Yes, but some of these companies have already ported the game to Linux... Just not via GOG.com.

For example, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords is available for Linux via Steam, but only Windows via GOG.com - yet both stores clearly indicate that it is the same companies behind both releases/store entries... In other words, the game (for Linux) is available, it just hasn't been uploaded to GOG.com.

Ask GOG.com and they say "Oh, but we don't have the license for Linux when it comes to <insert title>"... So rather than approaching developers and proactively saying something to the effect of "This game is available for Linux via Steam, why not us?", GOG.com are just throwing their hands up and saying "Not out problem."

Which brings me to my point... GOG.com have the (huge) advantage of DRM-free games, but it's ultimately Valve Software who are the driving force behind Linux gaming; GOG.com are just doing a half-assed attempt at supporting Linux because "it's the cool thing to do."

And it annoys me, because they (GOG.com) want everyone to think they're super pro-Linux, when in reality they just really aren't that interested... But that's a discussion for another day.

Oh i fully agree but to be honest i buy games on steam i have no problem with drm, i do get why people want drm free versions but i dont have a problem with it, as i was saying there could be legit reasons there may not be we will never know unless one of us lands at job at gog department of cdprojekt

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Quoting: Cyba.Cowboy

Quoting: Whitewolfe80Its not the ease of the port that is the hold up its license fees when cdproject red (gog) do the deal on a game unless the developer wants their game on linux or mac its not coming to linux and mac. Now whether gog push for that is a matter to ask someone over at gog but its not my theory on it, licensing issues has been what gog has said the problem was more than once on twitter.

Yeah, but a lot of the time it is the same company that has a Linux version of a game on Steam, but not on GOG.com... And every time, it's the same argument from GOG.com - "We don't have the licensing rights to distribute the Linux version".

If it was different companies (i.e. <Company 1> selling Linux/macOS/Windows version of <Title 1> on Steam and <Company 2> selling macOS/Windows version of <Title 1> on GOG.com), I can understand completely, but it's frequently the same company... This suggests to me that GOG.com aren't pushing the Linux thing too hard.

I love that GOG.com offer DRM-free titles and I'll always buy a game there first specifically because of this reason (I don't "do" DRM anywhere unless there is a guaranteed way to remove it)... But it's things like this that remind me Valve Software does so much more for the Linux Community than GOG.com ever will.

They may well not be pushing Linux but its an interesting question maybe one that (liam) GOL can ask his contact or PR rep. There could be legit reasons whether its licence or a lack of skills required to port to linux, obiviously there are some companies that just dont want to support linux cough "zenamax bethesda" but it could also be that cdpr (gog) just dont think about a linux version when making deals I for example would love to know why jazz jackrabbit 1 is on linux yet the sequel using the same engine is not.

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Quoting: Cyba.Cowboy

Quoting: PublicNuisanceI'm going to hold off buying the Steam version for a bit in hopes it comes to GOG. I'm a patient man.

I wouldn't hold your breath - I have a lot of games in my library or or on my "wish" list on GOG.com that have a native Linux version on Steam, but not on GOG.com... Many of which are older games easily ported to Linux.

There didn't seem to be an issue bringing the Linux version of Turok to GOG which was also handled by Nightdive and Ryan Gordon.

But then Nighdrive are Linux friendly so will probably see turok 2 for linux on gog eventually

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Quoting: Hme

Quoting: Stupendous Man

Quoting: HmeGrabbed a copy of DOOM (2016) for 7€, thinking I would test this whole proton thing not expecting much...
IT RUNS SO SMOOTH!

Where did you find it at that price?

Sorry for the late response...
It was on sale at GamersGate. Never used that site before, but worked nicely.
Got the game product-key which i then typed into Steam :)

I'm not entirely sure but wasn't GamersGate one of those places we're supposed to avoid due to the selling of stolen keys? Apologies to GamersGate if they're not one of them.

Gamersgate is owned by gamefly the old video game renting company and are apparently a key resller of legit games so the devs get the majority of the cut.

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