Quoting: omer666

Quoting: Whitewolfe80Yeah but Carmack is not exactly Linux friendly since he has gone on record to say releasing quake 3 on linux was a giant waste of resources

I don't think he actually said that, because 1) Quake 3 was ported by a single guy, TTimo aka Timothy Besset, and 2) Quake 3 was also officially ported to the Macintosh twice, first to Mac OS 9, and then to Mac OS X. The expertise gone into the Linux port certainly helped OMNI Group (responsible for the OS X port).

So that's not what one would call "a giant waste of ressources" even for a troll like Carmack. In fact he even said they could get a Linux build up and running in a week or two, it is official support which is harder to set up. The fact is that Zenimax is against "unofficial binaries", and that's what Linux versions of most id games were: unofficial and unsupported.

or he did John Carmack, the man behind some of the most influential video games of all time, caused a flurry of discussion over on Reddit last week when he expressed his opinions regarding native Linux ports of popular video games. Carmack's response on Reddit was an eloboration of a Twitter update he made on Feb. 4th where he stated that, "Improving Wine for Linux gaming seems like a better plan than lobbying individual game developers for native ports."

Carmack's logic is simple: There simply is not enough potential to monetize a native Linux port for game studios to invest the time, money and effort. So what if you started a company which ported popular games to Linux on behalf of a publisher? Carmack states that even if you were able to show a potential profit, it would need to be significant in order to recoup the high ancillary costs that most large publishers incur regardless of the size or scope of a port.

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s/Id Software/John Carmack

And Carmack has since gone on to say that these days he would choose Direct3D. When Carmack was voicing his preference of GL, we were talking about Direct3D 7 and maybe early 8. 9, 10 and 11 are a whole different kettle of fish. GL simply has not kept up to speed.[/quote]Yeah but Carmack is not exactly Linux friendly since he has gone on record to say releasing quake 3 on linux was a giant waste of resources

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Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI wonder when We gonna see this included in Crossover..

Sometimes I wonder why people pays so much money for a computer game, but not for such a usefull tool like crossover. Crossover 17 is great, I can't wait for next release.

Was curious about that.
Is the support good ?

When you ask questions to the support, they answer..
And most supported games have an install script (like POL)

Quoting: Whitewolfe80Or you could get it free its called Wine and just diy your games and applications

The problem with Wine by itself is that it is difficult to configure...

I installed, with a couple of clicks, Perception [External Link]

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without any problem on codewavers Crossover 17...(well, there is a little choppy audio with both games and Shadow warrior 2 has some little graphical glitches, but the games are playable)

It can be but if you want out of the box for free then lutris is your gui for wine and the scripts they have are well maintained for the most part.

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Quoting: coolbober

Quoting: Whitewolfe80

Quoting: coolbober

Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI wonder when We gonna see this included in Crossover..

Sometimes I wonder why people pays so much money for a computer game, but not for such a usefull tool like crossover. Crossover 17 is great, I can't wait for next release.

I think its because when you buy a game its yours forever despite what the eula may say. With cross over you have to pay a fee every year to get support.

Yes... but you can buy crossover without support - just a one version.

Or you could get it free its called Wine and just diy your games and applications

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Quoting: coolbober

Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI wonder when We gonna see this included in Crossover..

Sometimes I wonder why people pays so much money for a computer game, but not for such a usefull tool like crossover. Crossover 17 is great, I can't wait for next release.

I think its because when you buy a game its yours forever despite what the eula may say. With cross over you have to pay a fee every year to get support.

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Quoting: kalinCan we ask Ryan C. Gordon or Ethan Lee for help :)

Ethan cant help its not built around xna, Ryan C is a good shout but i doubt his patron sub would cover the hours required to overcome that problem.

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Quoting: pete910

Quoting: omer666Are you having black trees in-game? I just bought it and it's annoying me a great deal, I think it's going to be a refund.

Welcome to the supposed perfect NV drivers :P

No not perfect just 1 million times better than the official AMD ones.

Stop being silly and trolling!

You come across as a idiot making ridiculous statements like that.

Only to you i believe i made the point of making the edgy and snarky comment about nvidia drivers can be flipped round on an amd fan boy but it flew over your head sorry about that.

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Quoting: pete910

Quoting: omer666Are you having black trees in-game? I just bought it and it's annoying me a great deal, I think it's going to be a refund.

Welcome to the supposed perfect NV drivers :P

No not perfect just 1 million times better than the official AMD ones.

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Quoting: omer666Are you having black trees in-game? I just bought it and it's annoying me a great deal, I think it's going to be a refund.

which drivers are you using if you are using 384.98 dont there are issues making performance worse with that series of drivers roll it back to an older driver should see performance gains they are working on fixes.

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Quoting: scratchi

Quoting: EikeYour Account => Library => Keys => Reveal your Steam Key

Nope, I need to link my account to add the game to my Library to have the Key appear. Oh well, I got a long back log anyway...can do without this until GOG give it away (I have no problems claiming their giveaways :D ).

Thanks for the quick replies everyone, appreciate the help

I admire the stance but personally I have zero problem given my information to steam/humble whatever because Google already has it so does my bank/insurance company/ISP/Government etc etc

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