The terms roguelike and roguelite are so watered down now and generally misused that they're as useful as "PC" in my book.

This games looks lovely though. And the developer seems to be amazing. It's on my wishlist and I'll insta-buy when the final game is ready. Still, "6-8 months in EA" from a "summer 2019" release means that I'll be waiting a long time to spend money on this. Probably this time next year...

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Quoting: subLot's of our heroes turn out to not care *that much* about Linux.

Not like you can blame them though of course. They have a business to run, regardless of how passionate they are about ideals. If I was put in the position of dropping 2-3% of my sales in order to instantly gain masses of capital? It's a no-brainer. People have families to feed, jobs to secure.

Anyone who argues otherwise is just disconnected from reality, I think.

I still hate Epic for their tactics of course, but maybe some actual good can come of the money they're flinging around - smaller devs getting big capital payouts and guaranteed sales, competition for Steam, and hopefully very little impact on Linux as a whole.

I'm grasping for a silver lining, of course, but I think there's a definite over reaction to all this.

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...and bear in mind that Klei didn't support Linux for about 2 years with Oxygen Not Included when it first launched in EA. This Epic deal is utterly meaningless for us. We'll get much the same support and experience as we always get from them.

I despise the Epic Store and everything it represents, but I can't extend that derision to Klei over this.

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I almost never buy EA games anyway, so doing a one year stint on Epic first - no worries. I'll wait. Klei have produced some incredibly fine games over the years, definitely have my loyalty (to a degree).

I wonder what's happened to The Floor is Lava, or Hot Lava, or whatever their first-person parkour game was called. I'd have though it was better fodder for Epic Store than Griftlands!

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Man, I went to buy this, but I already own it. But weirdly (since I tend to enjoy this genre) I haven't played it. Looking forward to giving it a shot, and I'll be happy to wait for SM2.

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Easy choice for the developer to make, I suppose, but since that means no support, it's an easy choice for me as a consumer. No sale, and their decision swerves me away from the native product too, cos I'm petty that way. A little bit petty anyway. I might still buy the native game, it does look good.

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Quoting: x_wingI'm not sure how well this new service will handle with single pĺayer games

Off topic, but how the hell did you manage to get a accent on your lower-case L character in "player"?? I thought it was a dead pixel on my monitor and only realised it was a unicode character when I scrolled up and noticed it was moving! :D

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I have just absolutely no interest in this, other than boosting vulkan for a wider adoption of a) native Linux games and b) better/seamless experience on Steam Play.

Sure, for music, I do now mostly use Spotify. But that hasn't happened with Netflix, where I still buy movies to own. And it sure won't happen for games unless we all suddenly get fibre in all our households. Cheaply. Immediately. And even then, the centralised model with millions of fibre-based customers would cripple even Google's datacentres.

Just not interested. At all. Other than, you know, to moan about it on this thread.

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Incredible depth in this review. I'm afraid that while Doom was the masterpiece that made me consider a PC for a gaming machine all those years ago, I moved on after Heretic and Hexen and nostalgia isn't quite enough to make me go back much. I still tinker with Hexen on GZDoom occasionally, but some of its levels are just so complex by modern standards that I lose patience with how similar it all looks, even with an accelerated renderer.

I love how passionate this community is about the core material though, and that's reflected here. Well done!

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Gutted to say that this doesn't launch on my Ubuntu 16.04 system. I've refunded for now, and I'll have to consider the jump to Ubuntu Mate 18.04 soon, I think. This is the second game that fails to launch on the older LTS (Chronicon also fails to launch).

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