The demo units had about 30 games installed on them, all of them either Valve games or games from what they call "partners". I would love to see a list of those games to see which big publishers are among those partners.

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Quoting: JuliusEverspace alone is worth this one, but sadly it looks like Everspace2 is diverting significantly from the rogue-like formula that made the first one remarkable. Lets see...

I guess it's a matter of taste. I loved everything about Everspace EXCEPT that it was a roguelike.

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Well, it is kind-of in a package repository, specifically pip, the python one.

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Quoting: jrtWhat do I need ProtonUP for? There is an AUR package that updates proton-ge with normal system updates and you could probably do the same with a deb/rpm repository. I don't like a separate tool to update individual components. I'm a strong believer in the benefits of package managers.

That's nice for you, but not everyone is on an arch-based system.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleI'm not even saying Rosen is lying - he may well have had contact with a particularly crappy Valve rep who had their own fascist interpretation of the rules. I just can't see Valve doing this as official policy in any way.

Chet Faliszek (no longer at Valve, but still...) already said that such a clause simply does not exist. Rosen also didn't do himself any favors when he just made the claim without any evidence.

If such a clause in the contract, he could have brought it up in the lawsuit. He didn't.

If he was told by a Valve employee that he couldn't sell his games elsewhere for less - why didn't he release those interactions?

Weeeeeell, that's only sort of correct. There's no such clause in the contract, but it is mentioned in the developer guidelines document. The latter is not a binding legal agreement though, but can be the subject of coercion and therefore can be part of the law suit.

Where is this?

When you get Steam Partnered (as I am) you have to agree to a contract, but on the partner web site there are pages with some guidelines.

And does it say ANYWHERE that you can't sell your games for less money (NOT Steam keys)?

The mentioned text only applies to Steam keys.

And this isn't about Steam keys. It's about whether Rosen could sell his games on other stores for less money. He claims that he's not allowed to do that. He fails to provide evidence for that claim.

Correct.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleI'm not even saying Rosen is lying - he may well have had contact with a particularly crappy Valve rep who had their own fascist interpretation of the rules. I just can't see Valve doing this as official policy in any way.

Chet Faliszek (no longer at Valve, but still...) already said that such a clause simply does not exist. Rosen also didn't do himself any favors when he just made the claim without any evidence.

If such a clause in the contract, he could have brought it up in the lawsuit. He didn't.

If he was told by a Valve employee that he couldn't sell his games elsewhere for less - why didn't he release those interactions?

Weeeeeell, that's only sort of correct. There's no such clause in the contract, but it is mentioned in the developer guidelines document. The latter is not a binding legal agreement though, but can be the subject of coercion and therefore can be part of the law suit.

Where is this?

When you get Steam Partnered (as I am) you have to agree to a contract, but on the partner web site there are pages with some guidelines.

And does it say ANYWHERE that you can't sell your games for less money (NOT Steam keys)?

The mentioned text only applies to Steam keys.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleI'm not even saying Rosen is lying - he may well have had contact with a particularly crappy Valve rep who had their own fascist interpretation of the rules. I just can't see Valve doing this as official policy in any way.

Chet Faliszek (no longer at Valve, but still...) already said that such a clause simply does not exist. Rosen also didn't do himself any favors when he just made the claim without any evidence.

If such a clause in the contract, he could have brought it up in the lawsuit. He didn't.

If he was told by a Valve employee that he couldn't sell his games elsewhere for less - why didn't he release those interactions?

Weeeeeell, that's only sort of correct. There's no such clause in the contract, but it is mentioned in the developer guidelines document. The latter is not a binding legal agreement though, but can be the subject of coercion and therefore can be part of the law suit.

Where is this?

When you get Steam Partnered (as I am) you have to agree to a contract, but on the partner web site there are pages with some guidelines.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleI'm not even saying Rosen is lying - he may well have had contact with a particularly crappy Valve rep who had their own fascist interpretation of the rules. I just can't see Valve doing this as official policy in any way.

Chet Faliszek (no longer at Valve, but still...) already said that such a clause simply does not exist. Rosen also didn't do himself any favors when he just made the claim without any evidence.

If such a clause in the contract, he could have brought it up in the lawsuit. He didn't.

If he was told by a Valve employee that he couldn't sell his games elsewhere for less - why didn't he release those interactions?

Weeeeeell, that's only sort of correct. There's no such clause in the contract, but it is mentioned in the developer guidelines document. The latter is not a binding legal agreement though, but can be the subject of coercion and therefore can be part of the law suit.

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Have any other devs come forward with similar stories of coercion? Also, why the heck would Valve do this specifically for a fairly insignificant furry-punching game?

I'm not even saying Rosen is lying - he may well have had contact with a particularly crappy Valve rep who had their own fascist interpretation of the rules. I just can't see Valve doing this as official policy in any way.

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Quoting: Dan_igrokI wonder how those results are computed. Are these based on total connected users every day? Are they based on a sample of users? On all users at one particular moment?

A window pops up asking if you'd like to take part in the survey. If you say yes, it collects up some information about your computer and sends it to Valve.

I wager a hefty chunk of Linux users do not allow the survey because "oh no, privacy!"

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