There are never too many games of a certain type - just not enough games of another.

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Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 5742, member: 1"Killing Floor to me personally is a great game, especially since it's one game that used to tie me to Windows.

Looking at it's description page, what distinguishes it from another prominent zombie co-op based Steam offering may I ask?

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Quoting: "Bumadar, post: 5736, member: 93"lots on that list are HiB games, so makes nothing more then sense, I would say 90% of all HiB games come with a Steam Key, they all on my windows steam list so I assume they pop up on the linux steam list as well.

why desurium ? I have yet to find a issue with the default desura client, except maybe playing of flash/movies but I see that more as a linux issue then pure desura

Actually, those are not Flash videos - and yes, they have made them work properly in Desurium.

I was also running into performance problems and issues with file downloads on Desura.

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Do not take me too personally, for I am a cynical bastard, but I can suggest a few points.

Mostly I find your premise amusing, putting these dark little lives on these characters. I mean, I had no idea that I had to be afraid of "meth-heads" and having our place burned down by bandits. In fact, the only real crime we have had committed against us was when some drunk careened off the road and smashed into one of our fences. Then, adding insult to injury, the bastard CUT the wires so that he could get his vehicle out, leaving a gaping hole, and then careened off again. So the next morning our neighbour to the south woke up, hung over from being at a wedding the day before, to see our big Black Angus bull starring back at him from his front door. Thankfully, he took it fairly genially. If you want to add that as an event in your game, you are more than welcome. But the only really druggies we have around here are pot heads running grow-ops. ;)

To me it seems like you are trying to artificially add some drama to a situation - but there is already enough drama in being a family farmer. Have you ever spent an entire weekend trying to save the life of a newborn calf only for it to die on you because it was a dud? Or to actually be able to keep one going? Have you ever encountered a hen being caught by a hawk, still alive, and wondered whether or not you should put it out of it's misery or not? Or just in general deal with a collapsing flock? Have you ever seen the loss of an entire generation of calves due to blackleg? Have you ever had to shoot a cow because it had neurological diseases, like my mother has? And while I am not much of a crop farmer, have you ever thought of the fear of an early frost, or the spread of fungal infections (wheat out our way has been plagued by it this year), or an explosion of locusts? Or getting too much rain or not enough? You do mention predation, and that is a good start, but there is so much more material you could work into this.

But of course the primary fear is always going to be economic. Just take this year for example - because of the United States drought people down south are selling off their herds, lowering cattle prices. Then, to make matters worse, we just had an e-coli scare which has lowered consumer demand, shaken confidence in the beef industry, and has taken one of the largest meat packing plant's out of commission. We do not even know whether or not we are going to be selling our calves this year, as we are quite concerned that we will not get a decent price four our honestly quite excellent calves. Now, we do not depend on the income this brings, but imagine if we did? This can apply to anything sold on an open market. We do however have hay expenses which this eats out of, and that is a problem. The real drama in being a family farmer is that you can net really live off being a family farmer.

Another thing which would be good to add to your game, if you really are intent on telling our stories, is just how capable someone has to be to do this. You have to be a builder, a carpenter, a nurse, an electrician, a plumber, an accountant, and yes, even sometimes a psychologist, as these animals are not as dumb as you may think. In fact, if you want the player to interact with eccentric and interesting characters, all you really have to do is give the animal's themselves their own personalities. Just telling stories about the funny, irritating, or plain bizarre behaviours of our bull Pedro alone could fill up an entire post.

And these are just a few thoughts. I appreciate what you are trying to do, but I do find it amusing and yes, even a bit patronizing, when I see someone go into this and not truly seem to understand all the realities of it. Now, I am not sure of your background, so maybe you know more than you are letting on, but on first brush this seems to be really fanciful, more based on a certain romantic notion than any real sense of understanding. I hope I have given something for you to think about.

However, you are an Indie developer, and it is your game. So have fun and make the game you always wanted to make. Only take my suggestions on board if you really want to. But most importantly have fun and make the game you always wanted to make. Do not let us cynical bastards get you down. ;)

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Do farmers not deserve honor? After all, they provide most of the food we eat.

You heard the man, kneel before me knaves! :p

Still, I have to roll my eyes at most of this.

EDIT: Then again...

There are many obstacles and enemies that they must face. Those enemies include thieves, other farming organizations, politics, and even wild animals like wolves. We would like to show others what many people have to deal with in the agricultural world; things which may not be seen to all of the city-slickers, despite the rise in popularity of Farmer's Markets in metropolitan areas. We will like to show people what many people have to deal with in the agricultural world, which may not be seen to all of the city-slickers.

I am still laughing though. ;)

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I am really curious to hear whether or not this is a new policy on their front or if they have just simply never bothered to give Cold War any DRM yet.

But yes - they do need to get a couple new games out. Prove that things are still moving. Still, this gives me some hope. :D

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Quoting: "Guest, post: 5679"See, that's the issue. If DesuraNET relies on outside contributors on writing their applications, they cannot be taken seriously.

Posting this on a Linux forum = epic troll. Picking on something for being open source? Really? :rolleyes:

Their web interface is also getting better and better so if this upsets you so much you do not even need the client. Running with Scissors's recently dumped their own online download feature from their store in favour of Desura because you can just use it's web interface if you want. Plus, there is also the client if you want automatic update notifications and the like.

Quoting: "Cheeseness, post: 5682, member: 122"I believe it was [URL='http://nixstaller.sourceforge.net/news.php']Nixstaller[/URL]. It also has the ability to generate .deb, .rpm and a bunch of other package types on the fly that can be registered with distro package managers

Edward Rudd uses Nixinstaller for his ports while Ryan Gordon uses MojoSetup. Rudd has been more active lately on the porting front (I guess Ryan having a wife and kid has finally managed to slow down his legendary prowess somewhat) so more and more of the Humble Bundle games are using Nixinstaller.

Personally, they both have benefits and flaws. Nixinstaller has more features but looks less professional as it leaves it's own branding in, while Mojosetup is more seamless and does not toot it's own horn. At least, that has been my experience.

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My biggest problem with Desura/Desurium ATM is not any specific technical problem on their part but the fact that my Astaro Router is currently blocking it. We submitted it to their application database so that they can add a workaround, but because we are free users it can take time.

Still, I for one definitely do hope that not everyone gives up on Desura when Steam arrives. It is a good service and I trust it far more than I do Valve - even with their latest overtures.

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The appearance of Crusader Kings II is interesting.

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Well, I am not on Steam or GOG. You face a chicken and egg problem - why should Linux users have an account for something on a service that does not support them?

It was not screaming by fans that turned Valve's head anyway. Still, I do wish you luck...

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