Most games do not even show up on my radar until after the Linux port is released anyway; I do not really follow non-Linux gaming news apart from occasionally watching Zero Punctuation (which increasingly has games I actually own now, shockingly enough). Because I demand to play DRM free games as well I also have to be very careful with my purchases because of that, so I doubt I have ever fallen into a trap like the ones mentioned here myself.

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Quoting: STiATI don't really take a difference there. Critism can be trolling.

So how can concerns be expressed apart from criticism? It can be constructive.

Quoting: STiATIn fact, trolling is mostly based on the product, not the person. "Critism" can often be a personal attack ("are you incompetent or just retarded? the feature XY didn't work again as I expected";).

What is objectionable there is the personal attack, not the criticism, which is separate.

Quoting: STiATThough, despite the feature was never intended to work that way it was used which certainly was a fault on checking for the way to use it. I got personal mails like that.

Critics can be at fault without trolling. If they were harassing you over it though that is trolling.

Quoting: STiATMaybe you see it the other way around - but I consider trolling as something which has no context, just telling everything bad because you like something else. In example, trolling would be "fuck the linux port, go for more features on platform XY".

Thing is, while we may disagree with the statement, suggesting that a Linux port is less important than something else is not trolling in of itself. What is trolling is the attack on Linux in the context of the quote, which makes it a personal attack in its own way.

My apologies if this is drifting off-topic.

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Quoting: STiATSaldy, most of the critism guys are the very outspoken and loud ones. The ones quietly waiting are hardly recognized. If you ever developed open source - you probably have thousands and even hundred thousands of happy users who won't loose a word about it - and a few outspoken guys with a lot of critism and judgement - even about your person. I withdrew of a project because of that reason years ago.

To be fair, there is a fine line between criticism and trolling, which in this instance seems to have been quite heavily crossed (especially by the derogatory private emails) but does not apply to all criticism or opposition to something. Going after the person certainly is objectionable, but taking issue with a project on certain grounds is not, at least not when handled in a professional and suitably respectful manner.

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Well, looky here, my internet just stopped working for about half an hour before it finally came back. But really, how often does this happen? :whistle:

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I have had plenty of times where my internet was either unusable or was metered to such an extent I had to watch everything I did with it, and cut back accordingly. Privilege is saying that problems do not exist simply because they have never affected you yourself, which your argument is unfortunately full of Beamboom.

As for myself, if I buy a game I want to be able to install it on what machines I wish, have it be played it when I choose to have it be played, have a reasonable understanding of what the product is doing, and have some reasonable expectation that I can still play the game ten years for now. I expect nothing less when I put down money on a game or almost any other commercial product.

DRM threatens all of these things, all in an ineffective struggle to combat piracy, which, while harmful in its own ways, does actually in effect bolster those things which I considered to be desirable. Those games that require the CD you mentioned is an example of DRM, one which the pirate community helped solve even for legal game owners, such as myself, through No-CD solutions. These removed hassle and made the games more future ready. Which is something that game developers should be doing themselves.

This is not to whitewash piracy in its entirety of course; if you like a game or developer and have the means you should of course support them. But this does go a long way to explain why Ubisoft comes off as the bad guy here while the pirates themselves often come out looking like soldiers of light, and not for entirely undeserved reasons.

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To be fair, they were not referring to Linux piracy in the article.

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Quoting: MajorLunaCYou must be young, or at least ignorant, and you haven't experienced the Golden Age of Gaming that was the whole of the 90s to early 2000s.

Even people who were there at the time do not seem to remember what it was like back then. Everyone seems to have such short memories.

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While I am sure the game has value, your description of it just makes it sound like a journey into masochism.

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Alright, now that I have actually played some of this, I must now conclude that LIMBO may in fact be the most disturbing game I own. :O

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*tips his hat to them* ^_^

I wonder what changed to make this happen though, as if I recall correctly, they previously claimed that it was some middleware that prevented this from happening previously. Did they replace it or did the middleware become native in the mean time?

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