Wait, this only started being able to use Steam's online multiplayer features now? What was the point of it before then if EDuke32 already offered almost all of the same features and the whole reason anyone might want to play this was for the Steamworks integration?

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To be fair, I have tried to speak with them about their Desura issues and never received a response.

That being said, I have gotten way too much DRM free Linux native enjoyment from their game titles to condemn them too much for it.

I would still very much appreciate them looking into their Desura issues as well though.

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Is Frank Earl still involved with this? At one point he looked to be the next Ryan Gordon, but never seemed to get far beyond porting Caster unfortunately.

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My first thought on seeing it: ShiVa3D is still around?

I guess we should add it to the list alongside Leadwerks and Godot then.

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Quoting: Quote from AoC@Hamish http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/derogatory [External Link]

DRM wasn't what the news was about, you're all off on a tangent and my statement is derogatory? You have to be British... (there's your derogatory)

I perfectly know what that word means.

I agree that this whole DRM debate was not what this news was about, and it is actually off-topic, but your comment quickly devolved into a very cheap shot.

Although, my comment about starting fires can apply to many posters in this thread, of various stripes.

And no, I am not British. Care to clarify that one?

Quoting: Quote from liamdaweThe desura client doesnt let you you download windows games.

No, but Desura does, thanks to the fact that you can download games straight from the webstore. I for one really do appreciate this feature, and do find Steam lacking for not having it, although I do agree that that in of itself is not DRM; that being said, I hate having to install unnecessary software just to get where I need, and I am very glad Desura offers this.

Quoting: Quote from berarmaThey don't need to force developers to go DRM-free, but at least they could label their games so you know what you're buying. I think they don't do that because they don't hold to any DRM-free promise.

Well, on this front we are still waiting on Desura to get their act together; Humble Store already qualifies, although I wish they would make it so that you could apply a DRM-Free filter like you can for platforms when scrolling through their catalogue.

Quoting: Quote from liamdaweSteam by itself is a download client/browser that offers game developers a choice on DRM.

While also providing them with their own DRM service to hook into. Not quite the same as having it all be the developers choice.

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Quoting: Quote from berarmaHow much do you like discussing the same thing over and over?

Not very much. Which is why I have been just idly flicking through these discussions lately - when someone offers up a new point I might choose to respond, but for the moment it is the usual same back and forth.

Quoting: Quote from AoCI'm confused how is valve doing something awesome like giving away hundreds of dollars of games to every Debian developer turn into an argument about DRM... Did I stumble onto phoronix? Q is that you? No couldn't be not promoting AMD free drivers.

And derogatory comments like this is where Phoronix culture springs from. Only try and start a fire if you actually want the place to burn.

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Well, I think we can definitely say that upstream RadeonSI 3D is close to mature:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_313_radeonsi [External Link]

But 2D acceleration through GLAMOUR still needs more work:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU3NTI [External Link]

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Quoting: Quote from adolsonLeadwerks might be a good alternative, too. I'm keeping it in mind, at least. But for now, my money's on Godot. Well, not money. But. You know what I mean.

Indeed, at this point I would really prefer to see Godot succeed more than any of the alternatives - the biggest problem with these game creation suites (as I now deem them to be called) is the harsh price you pay in terms of having your games be modifiable. At least with Godot being under the MIT license you will still have total control of your game even when using the dedicated creation tools, meaning that modability will not be nearly as large a problem as it is for Unity and presumably Leadworks titles.

But Godot still needs to prove itself viable - just like Leadworks does.

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This is going to be an interesting one. ;)

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Quoting: Lauri KasanenYou can help by recording a trace of the app's memory use. If you use Oibaf's PPA, you're set; if you build Mesa yourself, please apply the patches from the stats6 branch.

I do not build Mesa myself but use the version packaged by Arch Linux. Does it use the patches from the stat6 branch? How can one tell?

What about the Mesa shipped with Fedora?

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