I should really give Unqanquished a go now that is has bots.

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Desura does desperately need more hands working on it, something that the Linden Lab acquisition seems to be helping with. Desurium has also been getting better over time, and again Linden Lab seem dedicated to making it even better, and making some of these fixes more visible to regular Desura users.

That being said, a lot of your problems can also be blamed on Desura's more inclusive culture, which can be both a blessing and a curse. While it means that a lot of smaller developers can get out the door without all of the hassles that Steam and other distributors put them through, it does increase the possibility for errors as far as quality control is concerned. Still, this is only a real issue if Desura's refund policy is inadequate as far as I am concerned, something which I have never had to test as I have never demanded a refund as of yet.

Still, there is progress, and Desura has actually grown a lot over the past year. I still feel it is much too early to call them out as you have done, but to each there own.

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I do not think anyone cares whether or not SteamOS uses free software drivers. But they are relevant when discussing AMD's Linux graphics support.

Furthermore, I do not need to hold up hope for them. They are and have been improving almost every minute of everyday, and have been since long before Valve came onto the scene.

And frankly, based on the tone here, I do not think they are the ones that really need the PR help. 

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Quoting: Quote from gabsd84Also, AMD employee about 6-7 people to work on the open driver. These employees work on kernel, mesa, llvm and glamor among other components.

Can you point me to where you got that figure? I was under the impression it was less than that, but then that was just an impression.

Regardless, it is still an insignificant amount when compared to even the Linux Catalyst team, which makes what they have managed to achieve over the past few years (admittedly with a lot of community assistance) even more remarkable.

Red Hat also employs two people to work on the radeon driver as well as one employee that work full time on nouveau, last I heard.

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Quoting: Quote from Anonymousgot burned by Desura my self and will never buy from them again!  Welcome to the club.   I have been using Steam ever sense.

Did you hit a Desura specific issue, or did you just buy a bad game?

Because if it is the later, well, Deadly 30 is on Steam now...

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Quoting: Quote from n30p1r4t3Oh wow. Thanks for correcting me. Things have changed. I guess I should follow the OS driver updates for often. Kudos to AMD. Now only if they could improve the Non-Free driver as fast...

Take a look at Phoronix's year end review if you want more information on it:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_gallium3d_2013&num=1 [External Link]

And since you legitimately did not know, I will take back a little of the harshness from my previous post. Too used to discussing this on Phoronix. :|

Quoting: Quote from FutureSutureHamish did make a glaring mistake, though. He did not realise that by showing off all his knowledge on the matter, I will now seek him out for advice when the time comes to buy an AMD graphics card. GG, Hamish.

I am not that knowledgeable - but if you do have any questions, I will try my best to answer them. I did recently recommended a card to my brother who is reasonably happy with it.

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Quoting: Quote from n30p1r4t3I'm sorry about the past, Hamish.

You have nothing to apologize for, as far as I know. I just did not expect you to jump to my defence here.

I promise I will stop talking about this now. :P

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Quoting: Quote from twinsonianSteam DRM? This topic has been beaten to death all over the internet

Yes, it has.

Quoting: Quote from twinsonianYour statement should read "Most personally don't give a shit about trying to get their games running on linux when they can easily play their games on windows."

My statement was a parody. I do not actually agree with it.

Quoting: Quote from twinsonianMe personally? I would rather have the headache of getting my games running on Linux because I do not like the idea of being forced to do anything from M$.

And I would rather go through a few extra hoops to get my games because I do not like the idea of being forced to do anything by Valve.

Quoting: Quote from twinsonianI will gladly take their so called DRM for the opportunity to play my games on the distributions that I love using. Otherwise we will only ever be enjoying games like wesnoth on our linux installs.

So what the hell have I been playing for the past five years if we did not have any games before Steam?

But none of this is strictly on topic anyway.

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NOUVEAU IS NOT BETTER THAN RADEON IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE! NOT EVEN CLOSE!

R600g now has full power management, support for VDPAU and HDMI, improving 3D performance and OpenGL compliance, and broad support for most compliant graphics cards in-kernel. RadeonSI is also nearing a state comparable to R600g, which should hopefully speed up the process of supporting new hardware in the future, while R300g already has been pushed to a such a state that it would be difficult to improve upon. Nouveau can not boast anywhere near that broad range of features and support, despite years of hard work in the dark while Nvidia looked on.

Furthermore, while Nvidia's recent moves are laudable and may help change things, AMD has been supporting the development of the free radeon drivers since 2007, and not just by releasing documentation, but by also hiring dedicated graphics engineers to work on the drivers in order to ensure proper hardware enablement and to help spearhead the development of new features.

The only vendor that can claim better support for the their free software drivers is Intel's OSTC. Saying anything else is just pure FUD.

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Quoting: Quote from n30p1r4t3And stop heckling the man (Hamish) just because you don't agree. He's not forcing anything on you.

You are the last person I expected to come to my defence n30p1r4t3. :P

At any rate, let us not let the drama bog down this thread too much.

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