Quoting: BumadarAt GOG [External Link] two worlds is also listen so there are DRM free versions of the game, so if you don't like Steam including that DRM (although think about the fact the Steam is a sort of DRM) then you can always go to GOG.

The GOG version is actually the one I'm talking about. It includes DRM, at least to play the multiplayer aspects. There is no option to play that portion of the game without using Reality Pumps servers and without creating an account on their server tied to your cdkey.

I assume that since even the GOG version has DRM, you can expect having DRM in Linux as well, I would be very surprised if it were otherwise. Especially since they never even distribute the server code in Windows.

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These guys are definitely on my list of companies to not buy from. Even the so called DRM free version of the first game requires you to create an account on their server, and the multiplayer server is not distributed with the game. There are plenty of other great games to play instead of this one.

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Not really interested in a gui but having an open source client available ought to make writing a synchronization cli easy.

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I wonder why this game is not listed as DRM Free on Humble Store. I'd probably buy if I was sure that it is DRM Free. I don't consider anonymous stats as DRM, though it would be a nice touch if it could be disabled.

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Quoting: ElectricPrismDesura is crap. I contacted them 2 years ago asking them to step it up, I bet if hackers wanted to they could break into their server in no time at all.

The Linux Derurium client is buggier than a house infested with termites. Too bad Desura, your lackadaisicalism has left me disappointed, our love was not meant to be. I've moved on to a sexier and funner girlfriend and her name is Steam.

Well you are entitled to your opinion, and your not completely wrong about Desura though I'm not sure what "to step it up" means. Still I don't think it's a matter of if Desura or Steam is better. I paid for the product on Desura, and I feel like the developer ought to provide me with the latest version on Desura. I don't want this to turn into another Steam thread, but the bottom line is that I am not a Steam customer.

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This has been on Desura for a long time now, however, once the game was greenlit on Steam the developer essentially abandoned the Desura version, disappearing for years to work on the Steam version without any updates.

He did recently provide Steam keys, but for those of us who don't use Steam that doesn't help much. There is a reason I bought it on Desura.

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Looks like it might be fun, but I'm not going to pay until there is some sort of product. It doesn't have to be finished, but at least something playable. It feels like you really need to pay extra to buy in early, since its $15 for beta builds, this seems backwards.

Give me something I can do something with and I'd probably be interested. Then again even though I've bought plenty of alpha games I've never contributed to a KS, so perhaps I'm just not the target audience.

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Love this game. Will it ever see a stable release? I'm not sure it matters. Part of me thinks the distinction between stable and unstable software is meaningless. Stable has never meant bug free or that the game is complete anyway.

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Here is why it is different from needing to login to download your game and why I think Steam does contain unavoidable DRM:

First I think it's useful to consider the difference between downloading and installing. Steam combines them together somewhat which confuses things. I think we can agree that you have to do both in order to play the game.

Obviously for digital distribution you have to get the game first. No one can compel you to send them the software and so restricting the download to include only those who paid is fine. This is true even for DRM-free software under the GPL. Steam requiring someone to login in order to download the game is not DRM.

Unfortunately, Steam doesn't let you install the game without their permission. If you want to install or reinstall the game you need to connect to Steam again. Since the right to install the game is managed by Steam then I argue what you have is DRM. This is different than with a DRM-free package from the Humble Store, which allows you to install all day without contacting them in any way.

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I ended up using a gamepad, made the game much easier. Overall it is pretty fun though I beat it on my first playthrough. There is a new game+ mode but I didn't try it. I'm not sure it works right with multiple monitors but in KDE sometimes I just maximize and then use the window manager to set the window as "fullscreen".

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