Quoting: iiariOtherwise, store exclusive titles in the future like those of Epic are an issue too...

Just fyi, but the Epic Store works perfectly with Lutris (platinum rated [External Link] and every game I've tried so far has worked perfectly (Satisfactory, Observation, Outer Wilds).

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Very interesting, looks like The Room but with a proper story.

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I loooved the first one, so I'm really looking forward to this. Great that they are sticking with Linux.

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Quoting: Patola- Many updates completely changing the game rules; yes, I know, it is an improvement, but in practice I had to restart to enjoy it.

Honestly, restarting is pretty much a game mechanic. Once you are the most powerful empire on the map, there is really nothing else left to do - the fun is in everything you do to get to that point :) I have high-triple-digits hours in Stellaris and never once "completed" a playthrough.

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Quoting: Maathmake the game and all DLC free-to-play, and let the whales subsidize it by buying skins

That would royally piss off 99% of Paradox fans and that's a conservative estimate.

Please, the world is already full of free-to-play shovelware, leave Paradox alone. If a DLC looks too expensive, simply not buy it.

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Quoting: x_wingARMA I (aka Operation Flashpoint) has a Mac/Linux only repo.

Check it out:

https://steamdb.info/app/65790/info/ [External Link]
https://steamdb.info/app/594550/info/ [External Link]

That's great! I was pretty sure it wasn't possible.

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I don't know what they promised in the original crowdfunding campaign, but if they did commit to a Win/Mac/Linux release at the same time they should at least make a DRM-free release for Linux.

I say DRM-free, because I think the Windows depot on Steam is mandatory, so they couldn't use Steam just for Linux.

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Quoting: omer666I mean, he just pointed out two related facts.

There is no proof whatsoever that EAC's decision is in anyway related to Epic acquiring them.

Quoting: omer666Two of the biggest exclusive contracts they got (Metro and Borderlands) had their previous episodes ported to Linux, which obviously means they won't be ported just now (or won't be at all)

Borderlands 2 was ported to Linux a full 2 years after release, so I don't see how this is suddenly a problem about Epic's involvement. Metro Exodus is a 1 year exclusive and Borderlands 3 is a 6 month one.

Quoting: omer666They advocate the use of Lutris the way id software suggested to improve Wine support: now that we don't care anymore, just help yourself.

They have no immediate plans for a Linux client because they have much bigger priorities, rightly so. In the meantime they are not only suggesting using Lutris, but are also willing to fund Lutris via grants. How is that a bad thing?

Quoting: omer666But to accuse Liam of flaming... Sounds like "Come on, those damn journalists, can't they keep their mouth shut?" to me...

Perhaps I have different expectations for what that word means, but I don't think it's journalism to post pure unsubstantiated speculation knowing that it will help form a pitchfork mob.

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Quoting: GuestCan I ask that you calm down a little? Or, at least, use wording to give the effect of calming down a little. It appears to me that you're getting hyped up, and ironically grabbing a pitchfork at what others are saying.

Fair enough, I'll tone it down.

Quoting: Guestit does look like whatever Epic gets involved in turns out bad for gaming on GNU/Linux.

I wonder, did you try playing any games on the Epic store? In my experience, it works pretty great. Both the store and the games. Well, only Satisfactory for me, but it works flawlessly.

Quoting: GuestFor example, nobody was raising conspiracy theories - Epic is not out to destroy GNU/Linux, but neither is it lifting a finger to help the platform. That's not a conspiracy

Here's a link [External Link] to the reddit thread of this exact article. That particular comment has 134 upvotes right now. I think that whole thread speaks for itself honestly.

Quoting: Guestif you'd like to continue on something you mentioned: users who can no longer play a game because of lack of EAC, but who paid the same money as, say, Windows people (who can keep playing) - doesn't that strike you as a little unfair? While a refund I don't think is suitable, surely there's something you could suggest that a developer could do to make up for it, even in a token fashion.

No, it's not at all unfair to me. When you pay for a game, you buy it as-is. There is no guarantee, implied or otherwise, of future content or support. The only exception to this is what a company explicitly chooses to support, like Valve's playtime based refund program.

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Quoting: liamdaweYou're making it sound like only the Linux community gets heated. That's very disingenuous and you know it.

When Windows gamers get "heated" the developers don't have the luxury to stop supporting them. That's not the case for Linux. "I want to, but it's not worth the drama" is an exact phrase I've heard.

Quoting: liamdaweSo you keep saying but without something to show for it, all people will think is you're another armchair expert trying to make themselves sound important. Stop doing it. I'm not trying to be horrible here, seriously, but it's very annoying when people use a line like this, repeatedly, like their opinion is more important than others.

I'm not saying my opinion is more important than yours, it's not, not sure where you got that. I'm just trying to give insight into how developers (particularly indie) tend to see the situation because I've been in that situation. If you don't believe me, that's fine. Maybe you could reach out to some developers who decided against a Linux port and ask them - off the record - their impressions of the community. I bet it won't be sunshines and rainbows.

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