:D
Okay, I think I see what you guys meant now.

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Well, I'm glad I have too many games to play right now. Otherwise, I would've bought this right away.

Seems like a few months will let the game... become finished.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandle

Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: rustybroomhandleBecause someone will "correct" the numerous wrong things you said in your comment. This will be followed by someone "correcting" them, and someone "correcting" them, etc etc etc until 8 pages later nobody has anything to say about the article any more.

It's a religious war - nobody ever changes their opinion, nobody ever "wins".

This has nothing to do with opinions.

And yet, if I pointed out the FACT that you are able to copy and play Steam games that don't use Steam DRM without Steam, you would find some lame excuse about why I must be wrong.

Why would I?
You seem to assume an attack where there is none.

Thinking about this some more, Steam is in most cases used as a DRM, but there are whole lists of DRM-free games on Steam.
Guess I should have put a "usually" in my initial statement. As in: If you buy a game from Steam, it will usually contain Steam as a DRM measure. If you buy a game from GOG, it will never (?) contain any DRM measure.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleBecause someone will "correct" the numerous wrong things you said in your comment. This will be followed by someone "correcting" them, and someone "correcting" them, etc etc etc until 8 pages later nobody has anything to say about the article any more.

It's a religious war - nobody ever changes their opinion, nobody ever "wins".

This has nothing to do with opinions.
Steam serves, among other things, as a DRM for developers that publish on it.
GOG doesn't. In fact, GOG makes it a point to be DRM-free and even advertises that.

Where in this is opinion?
It's not like I said any word against or in favor of DRM measures. THAT would certainly lead to the typical holy wars. But I didn't, I was just correcting a factually wrong statement.

Quoting: LeopardI can play Skyrim , without Steam on Wine.

Quoting: LeopardSee , having all this DRM free kinda stuff automatically leads to a certain point.

Your point being?
I honestly don't know what you are trying to tell me here.

Quoting: LeopardSo , real purpose here is playing games without constant protection measures or want GOG to take care all getting DRM stuff for you for some purposes?

I don't even understand this sentence.

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Quoting: Cybolic

Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: Xpander

Quoting: PublicNuisanceThose that wish to see a DRM free version can vote here:

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/apocryph [External Link]

how you know if the steam version is with DRM? it doesnt have multiplayer afaik, so it probably wont use steamworks and if the developers do not add any other DRM stuff then its DRM free there also

Steam is in itself a kind of DRM.

Not this again ... Can't we continue that one in the forums?

Why?
I was just correcting a wrong assumption.

Having a game on Steam serves as DRM. You cannot play Steam-games without buying them (or downloading a cracked version of them, or using family sharing). Pretty clear DRM.
GOG-games are just downloads, everyone can play them even without a GOG account. No DRM at all (except for the first person to buy and upload it somewhere). You can play a GOG-game even if you did not buy it.

I'm saying this fully neutral, not to judge either Steam or GOG or DRM or no-DRM.

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Quoting: Xpander

Quoting: PublicNuisanceThose that wish to see a DRM free version can vote here:

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/apocryph [External Link]

how you know if the steam version is with DRM? it doesnt have multiplayer afaik, so it probably wont use steamworks and if the developers do not add any other DRM stuff then its DRM free there also

Steam is in itself a kind of DRM.

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Excellent! Got this on my wishlist since I read about it here last time :)
On the other hand... too many games releasing/coming out of EA right now :(

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: iiariI'd think that the people most interested in a title would go in for early access, but maybe I'm wrong....

If I'm really interested in experiencing a game, why would I spoil it for myself while it's still unfinished? The only reason I might buy an EA title is to fund the development, but I'd never play the game until it's actually out.

Yes, same here. With only a few exceptions of games that are almost done already (like Factorio or RimWorld).
There are so many games out there to play, no need to dive into the unfinished ones for an unfinished experience.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Mountain ManWait, they're complaining about low sales, yet they're still in "early access"? Do developers even understand what "early access" is?

I don't really get why people think someone is complaining as their first thought? They specifically say this in the linked post:

This isn't a very high number, but it's close to what we expected, and we're happy with this early result as a new company.

Stop complaining, Liam!

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Does anyone know if devs can see the number of people that wishlisted their game?
I feel that is an important statistic, especially for early access games.

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