Yeah, the Steam page is full reports like that.
What a mess.
And what a shame.

Guess we'll have to wait some more for a proper next Painkiller.

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Quoting: ajgp

Quoting: zimplex1I can't in good conscience support this game; not with the forced diversity and the "they" issue.

OK, someone is going to have explain these 2 points to me:

1. Forced diversity?

It is relatively simple.
For some people, the inclusion of an option (!!) is already an invasion into what is considered right and wrong. It matters not that they are in no way affected.
A character that is homosexual? Clearly agenda pushing.
No character that is homosexual? Clearly agenda pushing.
Inclusion/lack of a pronoun? Clearly agenda pushing.
A game set in medieval central Europe in a VERY rural place not depicting a person with darker skin color? Clearly racism.
A team that just happens to be mostly male/female? Clearly sexism/forced inclusion.
People who want to be offended will be offended and will always find a reason, SJW and anti-SJW alike. It would be madness to try and make a game that doesn't offend anyone.

And HBS have been very open about being SJWs. Hell, the lead designer (if I am not mistaken) of BattleTech is a trans woman, and a very active SJW, too.
So anything coming from them, therefore MUST BE pure agenda pushing. Right? ;)

Now, I'm not saying there is no agenda pushing in media. Clearly there is. And to me, that is fine. Competition is good. May the better agenda win.
But in this game? No.
I've talked to all the NPCs on board (there are not many) and all of them are pretty normal people, not at all being in-your-face about whatever sexuality, race, etc. they are. In fact, you just don't get that much personal information out of them - which is a welcome change from all the games in which people just tell a total stranger their life story.

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I would very much recommend everyone to still wait on the game, Linux or not.
This delay for the game to come out on Linux later might be a blessing in disguise.

Currently, BattleTech has a lot of pretty serious grievances:

The loading times are a disaster, and "it's just Unity" is not the reason here. Other Unity games with way more things to load (more assets, more polygons, etc.) load way faster.

The game flow is constantly being interrupted:

• Animations are SUPER slow (yes, they *are* mechs, but come on!) and CANNOT be sped up. That's right, another turn-based tactics game with no possiblity to speed it up. Mind-bogglingly stupid to omit such a vital and easy to implement feature.


• After shots have been fired, it takes forever to display all the effects that were caused, and once that is finally done, there might still be a knockdown animation to watch... and then a sound to load and play as further acknowledgement...


• You are forced to wait for enemy animations to play out - even if you cannot see them as they are out of range! Incredible. XCOM did this better more than 20 years ago.

Missions in this game can easily take 30-60 minutes. 50-80% of that are just you waiting for animations/effects/enemies to finish. Oof!

The tutorial doesn't explain 80% of what's going on and what the actual rules are. Instead it bothers you with no-brainers like "take cover" and "attack from behind"/"watch your back".
I had to read about pretty much everything online or just keep playing and derive the rules myself...

Mech categories (light/medium/heavy/assault) could be renamed to (bad/okay/good/awesome). There is 0 reason to ever field a light mech once you have access to medium mechs (and then medium->heavy, etc.). They are faster, but do very little damage and can take even less.
You always get to field 4 mechs, so you always want to field the heaviest that you can - there is no downside.
Again, mind-boggling that they did not instead make use of a tonnage limit so you'd have to decide yourself if you want more, but lighter mechs or fewer, but heavier ones.

Beneath all of this is a really good game, but one can only hope they patch all the filth away so that this good game can actually shine.
I played for about 10-15 hours so far, but can barely motivate myself to keep on playing as I know I will just have my time wasted for more than half the time of me "playing".

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And it only took 10 years or so! :D

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Quoting: Hori

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: HoriAm I really the only one who likes data protection laws?

No, and you're not even the only one who didn't read the thread.

I've read the article, but the comments only a few random ones, and the ones I happened to read were against it, dunno.

Most people are against stuff that imposes mild inconveniences on them ;)

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:D
Okay, I think I see what you guys meant now.

:whistle:

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Well, I'm glad I have too many games to play right now. Otherwise, I would've bought this right away.

Seems like a few months will let the game... become finished.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandle

Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: rustybroomhandleBecause someone will "correct" the numerous wrong things you said in your comment. This will be followed by someone "correcting" them, and someone "correcting" them, etc etc etc until 8 pages later nobody has anything to say about the article any more.

It's a religious war - nobody ever changes their opinion, nobody ever "wins".

This has nothing to do with opinions.

And yet, if I pointed out the FACT that you are able to copy and play Steam games that don't use Steam DRM without Steam, you would find some lame excuse about why I must be wrong.

Why would I?
You seem to assume an attack where there is none.

Thinking about this some more, Steam is in most cases used as a DRM, but there are whole lists of DRM-free games on Steam.
Guess I should have put a "usually" in my initial statement. As in: If you buy a game from Steam, it will usually contain Steam as a DRM measure. If you buy a game from GOG, it will never (?) contain any DRM measure.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleBecause someone will "correct" the numerous wrong things you said in your comment. This will be followed by someone "correcting" them, and someone "correcting" them, etc etc etc until 8 pages later nobody has anything to say about the article any more.

It's a religious war - nobody ever changes their opinion, nobody ever "wins".

This has nothing to do with opinions.
Steam serves, among other things, as a DRM for developers that publish on it.
GOG doesn't. In fact, GOG makes it a point to be DRM-free and even advertises that.

Where in this is opinion?
It's not like I said any word against or in favor of DRM measures. THAT would certainly lead to the typical holy wars. But I didn't, I was just correcting a factually wrong statement.

Quoting: LeopardI can play Skyrim , without Steam on Wine.

Quoting: LeopardSee , having all this DRM free kinda stuff automatically leads to a certain point.

Your point being?
I honestly don't know what you are trying to tell me here.

Quoting: LeopardSo , real purpose here is playing games without constant protection measures or want GOG to take care all getting DRM stuff for you for some purposes?

I don't even understand this sentence.

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Quoting: Cybolic

Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: Xpander

Quoting: PublicNuisanceThose that wish to see a DRM free version can vote here:

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/apocryph [External Link]

how you know if the steam version is with DRM? it doesnt have multiplayer afaik, so it probably wont use steamworks and if the developers do not add any other DRM stuff then its DRM free there also

Steam is in itself a kind of DRM.

Not this again ... Can't we continue that one in the forums?

Why?
I was just correcting a wrong assumption.

Having a game on Steam serves as DRM. You cannot play Steam-games without buying them (or downloading a cracked version of them, or using family sharing). Pretty clear DRM.
GOG-games are just downloads, everyone can play them even without a GOG account. No DRM at all (except for the first person to buy and upload it somewhere). You can play a GOG-game even if you did not buy it.

I'm saying this fully neutral, not to judge either Steam or GOG or DRM or no-DRM.

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