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Quoting: MohandevirHad an MSI RX580 Armor 8gb for 6 months before it died on me. It was a heat generator and noisy as hell, but performances were awesome. I put the failure on MSI's bad design choices though.

Next build (around christmas), if AMD as something to offer comparable to the GTX 1660ti (performance, price and TDP), I might give another chance to AMD in another brand (Gigabyte or Sapphire).

I've had my Sapphire factory OC'd RX480 for several years now. Sure it puts out quite a lot of heat and can get little bit noisy under constant load but its been good card to own, well built and it still delivers (I can play most of the titles I own/play in 1440p and get ~60fps in reasonable detail). Drivers have been solid in recent years and overall I've been very happy with my investment and can highly recommend Sapphire cards.

Sapphire RX480 was indeed a bit on the noisy side. They revised and improved their design quite a bit for the RX580 so despite it being basically the same GPU it was much less noisy. A lot of people were a bit let down when the RX480 came out after Sapphire completely blew their competition away with their R9 290, R9 390 and Fury but those came with a much beefier three fan heatsink similar to what you see on their Vega. These were 260-300W TDP GPU's but Sapphires awesome boards and heatsinks managed it without fuzz and their noise levels were on par with the best Nvidia based cards. I guess it was a bit overkill for the Polaris so they developed a cheaper heatsink when the RX480 came out and the first iteration was a bit noisy with fans regularly hitting >2000rpm. My Fury usually sits at 0rpm even during light gaming, and when fully loaded (260W) it hits about 1100-1200rpm, I had two of them for a while and that was a bit toastier so then they could hit 2000rpm sometimes when putting load on both cards which could be a bit too noisy for my taste.

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Quoting: MohandevirHad an MSI RX580 Armor 8gb for 6 months before it died on me. It was a heat generator and noisy as hell, but performances were awesome. I put the failure on MSI's bad design choices though.

Next build (around christmas), if AMD as something to offer comparable to the GTX 1660ti (performance, price and TDP), I might give another chance to AMD in another brand (Gigabyte or Sapphire).

Isn't MSI's Armor series one of the cheaper models though? Noise and heat isn't a problem with this GPU, it's a problem with that particular card. Go for something a bit more premium next time and you will be happier. Sapphire is usually a safe bet if you want a good AMD-based graphics card.

Sorry for off topic. ACO sure came as a surprise. Sounds promising. It's been well known for some time that LLVM isn't optimal for graphics shader compilation.

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One of those games that I keep coming back to every now and then ^_^

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Go team turtle!

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I think Canonical might backtrack on this decision, but if not, then Debian testing makes a lot of sense. It is the distribution that Ubuntu (and SteamOS) is based on after all, and after initial setup and a bit of configuration, it's pretty much the same as Ubuntu under the hood.

Some of you rightly pointed out that Debian is not as newbie-friendly. I agree, but what if SteamOS was touted as the newbie-friendly distribution instead?

Others rightly pointed out that Debian is too conservative. Correct in regards to the stable version, hence why Debian testing should be promoted instead. It is no more unstable than Ubuntu. Quite the opposite in my experience. It also gets regular updates of important packages for gaming such as kernel and mesa so there's no need for ppa's and such like there is on Ubuntu.

Debian aims to support a whole bunch of architectures which makes me think that multi-lib is going to be supported for many years to come. There's been no indication of them dropping it unlike many other distributions.

Edit: Or perhaps make a desktop flavour of SteamOS?

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Quoting: jarhead_hI might add a second graphics card and will probably convert the whole thing to liquid cooling at some point. Always better to have more than you need.

Perfectly legit excuse if you need a second card for compute. I have 750W for the same reason and I did have two Fury's for a while even though I'm back to one now. Forget using multi-GPU for gaming though. It's beyond useless.

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Quoting: mylkathey also say it is for 1440 and 4K gaming, but they only have 8GB VRAM.

8GiB is plenty. I've only got 4GiB, and while it is sometimes borderline, it's still fine for 1440p.

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Wow. Remember playing a bit of these as a kid back in the late 90's and early 00's when they first came out.

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Quoting: GuestUiiiii, I'm super excited on what their GPUs are capable off if they finaly released and I can study some compute benchmarks.

I don't think it will offer much new in terms of compute performance since they are marketing this solely as "gaming gpu" and they've said that Vega will remain since it's still competitive in compute. If Navi was a compute beast then the marketing pitch wouldn't have been like this.

Quoting: GuestNo one here spooked by the fan on X570 motherboards ? (And their prices)

Apparently the chipsets TDP is quite a bit higher to facilitate all that high speed connectivity with PCIe 4.0. Don't need PCIe 4.0? Then you might be better of with a X470 board which has a lower TDP chipset. Good news is that these new CPU's will work in most older boards but obviously you miss out on PCIe 4.0 and perhaps on RAM-performance as well if you put them in an older board.

Quoting: crt0megaOnly 105W TDP for their 16C/32T CPU? O_o

Yea, but don't expect much more than ~3.5GHz when stressing all cores. TDP is kept in check by lowering frequency obviously. I fully expect this thing to go way beyond 200W when overclocking on all cores. Still, looks like a beastly CPU. Out of my price range though so I'm sticking with my 1700X.

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The DLC will be free until July 8th, where 2K said in the press email it will be $14.99 after.

Not sure how to interpret that. Does it mean that if you play it before July 8th it's free and it will disappear after that only to return if it's bought? Because it doesn't appear is "in my library".

I pressed "Download" and it doesn't actually download since it's not on Linux yet but when I go back to the store page it says it's in my library now.

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