I think those sizes aren't referring to literal transistors anymore, so it can be misleading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_device_fabrication#Size [External Link]

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I wonder if they'll have 16 core / 32 thread CPUs with V-cache and that will compare to non V-cache ones from the game generation.

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Quoting: mr-victoryThe month has passed already but anyways, if I am using nvidia open kernel modules should I propriearty or open source GPU driver? Theoritically I should choose open source becuase pretty much every GPU deiver is propriearty firmware + open software stack except on Nvidia open all graphics stack is in the firmware.

I think the question is now confusing becasue it doesn't differentiate kernel driver and graphics stack like OpenGL / Vulkan. Before there was no option to have a mix.

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Looks like AMD GPU growth trend is back to normal now, since shortages and overpricing are finally over.

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Good demonstration to those who were asking what's wrong with Nvidia's (former) approach of not willing to upstream their driver.

Things can improve now may be for real.

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I just build Mesa main weekly (focused on AMD) to use it for games. I use it separately from system Mesa from Debian testing that's used for regular desktop needs.

So no need to wait for anyone to package it or to even package it in the first place. I.e. just setting a few environment variables, you can launch games using Mesa placed in some custom location.

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Quoting: omer666Yes but who knows if it will be able to work with Nvidia's kernel driver...

The point is not their kernel driver, but Nouveau that will use what's possible from that. Mesa will work with it.

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Quoting: omer666If this is the case, they *may* end up writing an open-source Vulkan driver for it, which would allow us to have OpenGL thanks to Zink. That would be our best hope for now... Provided you've got a compatible GPU

OpenGL for Nvidia on top of nouveau already exists in Mesa even without Zink. It's called nvc0 (rather obscure name, but radeonsi isn't much better either).

https://mesamatrix.net [External Link]

Click "Driver details" under "OpenGL" there.

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Quoting: tpauIs there still a reason why RADV and AMDVLK co exist and not one of them replaced the othe`?

Supposedly because AMD didn't want to maintain separate code bases for Windows and Linux. And radv currently is dependent on Linux kernel interfaces.

Though Intel has no problem doing it and with AMD situation improving financially, I think they can officially switch to radv on Linux fine.

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Quoting: STiATI don't see the need to make userspace libs open source. AMD does not either, they help (or rather basically develop mostly on their own) the open source Mesa version too.

AMD supports both radeonsi (open source OpenGL for AMD in Mesa) and amdvlk (open source Vulkan for AMD, but not part of Mesa). So their full stack is open source. Mesa has radv for it.

So for Nvidia to be on par, someone has to implement open source Vulkan for them. Open source OpenGL in Mesa for it already exists (though not supported by Nvidia).

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