I watched a couple videos on YouTube and it looks terrible, especially once it gets into combat. And some terrible bugs (that may be fixed now).

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So awesome to see that penguin up there!

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I can't see why it wouldn't be available by itself... That would be a really bad move. I'll be getting one the day they're available.

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I am also typing this from SteamOS with a BIOS system. I only have 3GB of RAM and a 120GB hard drive.

Also, 4200 lines of diff for the X compositor sounds significantly customized to me.

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Quoting: Quote from adolsonI'll have a look at Garry's Mod and probably end up adding one to the Linux sales at some point.

Its in the current humble bundle.

*sigh* So it is, so it is... I knew that too, I get their emails, but wrote it off because I had no interest in whatever it was, and the other Linux games I already bought a long time ago. But since it's for charity... Guess I'll go ahead and get it now. +1 Linux purchase.

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This looks awesome. When will I ever have the time to play all these games, though?? Argh.

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Quoting: Jane JensenGuys, I've just become aware of this thread. I just want to clarify.

   1. First, we never said MGX would be released on Linux

So the Technical Director doesn't know the actual technical direction of the game?

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Quoting: Quote from XpanderOT:About Garry

thats how he is. But Actually he's pretty dedicated about the linux port. at least with its new baby (Rust). whenever someone reports a bug on their forums about linux he's answering pretty fast and pulling the logs and pushing to other devs.

That's great to hear.

Also, apologies for getting the thread off topic :D

That would be my fault. :P

I've heard of Garry's Mod, but I don't own it. The name of the game alone put me off - who's Garry? And why do I want a Mod he made? Maybe if he wants my money, he should call it something else, like... Crazytown. Or Rust - that one is on my wishlist at the moment. I'll have a look at Garry's Mod and probably end up adding one to the Linux sales at some point.

On topic though, if everyone who actually wants to play this game would, instead of simply complaining about it, actually put some effort in to let Activision know they're making a mistake, maybe they'll listen. They're not going to do anything if they don't see a demand, that's for sure. With such a small market, though... I suspect it may be futile after all. But at least I've tried.

@ATVIAssist on Twitter, if anyone cares to chime in.

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Quoting: Quote from adolsonThe Humble Bundles clearly show that "Linux gamers" are so starved for games that they outpay the guys on the other platforms

That notion doesn't hold up when there have been developers have been citing similar revenue share percentages (10% - 18%) outside of Humble Bundle's promotions.

I'm not sure what you're referring to. Are you saying that the <2% of Linux gamers on Steam, for example, are accounting for 10+% of the revenue for a bunch of games? So, say, random game, Monaco. 10% of Monaco sales are from the <2% of Linux users?
Or are you saying that other similar PWYW promos see the same type of thing happening as Humble? Because I only used Humble as an example. I have not seen stats from anywhere else. It wouldn't shock me to hear that all of the statistics are skewed, in favor of Linux, on the various indie and bundle sites out there, and non-Steam/GOG/Origin/UPlay digital distribution services. I have a few friends who run Windows, and they don't bother with Humble Bundles or Gamersgate or whatever, even if a game on their Steam Wishlist is available for cheaper-than-dirt. But Linux users flock to that stuff, it seems. (Obviously my sample set is pretty small, but I'd be surprised if it weren't true).

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Quoting: Quote from adolsonand still pay far less than the value received

Without knowing the frequency of payment values, there's no way to know whether Linux gamers are generally paying less than the value received, or whether there is a segment with exceedingly low contribution values pulling the average down (same goes for other platforms, potentially to a greater extent since their averages are so low).

Either way, pay-what-you-want promotions can never be a reliable indicator for fixed price point market conditions.

That's possibly true. I didn't really have a point for including that bit. However, in a lot of cases I've seen some of the top purchases referencing Linux. So, when someone pays $1000 or whatever, for a bundle that is valued at $60, they're overpaying and would be raising the average... Outliers work in either direction, you see. But regardless, without full access to the data, we won't know for sure. And it really doesn't matter.

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Quoting: Quote from adolsoneven bundles that only have Windows games

This is very true. Even outside of bundles and other sales, there are still plenty of Linux users buying non-native software, creating a differential of two sales (+1 for Windows and -1 for Linux).

This isn't necessarily bad if developers can be convinced to talk about changes in existing player bases rather than fixating on sales. If developers can see porting legacy games as an investment in customer satisfaction and loyalty, then we're more likely to see positive change moving forward (the difference between Valve's outlook on porting their catalogue vs Garry's yammering about not seeing many Linux sales post Linux launch)..

True. It wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't heard many, many times over the years, "sorry, we don't support Linux, but you could try Wine." Sure, take my money! Talk dirty to me some more, non-Linux-supporting publisher!

I hope that Steam Machines really offer up some incentive. I think Valve know what they're doing and have some tricks up their sleeves... Even so, I'm looking at it akin to a new console launch, where the backwards compatibility is non-existent and I have to build a new library from scratch. Only this time will be the last time. And my collection is around 150 games and my system hasn't even launched yet - AND I can play them already on my computer! That's a hell of a launch, if you ask me...

Anyhow, I don't know this Garry guy or what games he worked on. But he sounds pretty whiny. I'm assuming that the port came sometime after the Windows version... And I bet most of the Linux users who know who he is and wanted his game had already bought it. What he learned from that, is what Activision already knows. If his games are good, I'd be willing to buy them. Maybe I already own them/it and I don't even know. Hopefully he'll make some more Linux money via Steam Machines.

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There's no money in Linux gaming right now, and what little there is gets spent outside of Linux far, far too often. The Humble Bundles clearly show that "Linux gamers" are so starved for games that they outpay the guys on the other platforms, and still pay far less than the value received. Yes, Linux gamers buy lots of games, even bundles that only have Windows games...... Good job, team, way to really send a message!

Look, if I'm Activision, no way in hell am I supporting any kind of Linux game, in the situation it's currently in, especially when I know that you vote with your wallet, and I get your money either way, no Linux port necessary. I did not forget what happened with the Call of Duty fans  when I ditched the dedicated servers... They all screamed "boycott!" and then trampled each other like the Black Friday cattle do, trying to get the game as soon as I cast my pearls upon the swine. Pathetic. Cha-ching. I'm sleeping on stacks of money, dawg.

Valve has the potential to change the entire gaming landscape forever with SteamOS and Steam Machines, and I hope beyond hope that people show up to cast their vote when the polls open.

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