Quoting: dannielloIf I'm not wrong chatgpt.com / copilot.microsoft.com it is website/cloud service. The same like google.com search. It cannot work off-line by design (without downloading all bigdata - so in case of large AI models like ChatGPT/Copilot it is impossible, because it would require download the internet:)

So what is the point for local NPU units? Except of course PR to sell additional fake features, i.e. some functions of website copilot.microsoft.com will be unlocked only when local NPU will be detected, but it is fully artificial limitation - some kind of DRM...

You can very well run models similar to the ones you mentioned locally. Some of the common uses that you might already find in your phone, for example, is stuff like assisted photo manipulation and handwriting recognition.

None of the models require you to download the internet, but some of the bigger models can be gigabytes in size. Remember, they don't contain the data they're trained on, but something more like the common links between each piece of data.

If you're curious to give it a try, I can recommend ollama as an easy way to get started.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyI don't see the applicability of a specialized "AI" doohickey to general purpose computing. How is this going to help me watch or even process video, or play games, or do a spreadsheet, or browse the web? And if it isn't, why is it a selling point that I have to pay for it?

But it's not like I know anything; I didn't know there would be a point to specialized hardware bits even for doing actual AI stuff.

Some of this is actually what I'm trying to use it for on my machine. For spreadsheets, it's nice to be able to say "make a column that does A and B calculations on X and Y" and for web, I've been poking at auto-categorising my bookmarks into sensible folders - same thing with my growing collection of notes. One of the reasons I haven't gotten that far with it, is precisely because I'd prefer not to send my data to a third-party service, so running it on local hardware (with decent speeds) would be very nice.

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I don't understand why NPUs are being put into CPUs and GPUs at this stage. For fully custom systems/ecosystems, like the Apples, sure, I get it, but for everything else, the tech doesn't seem evolved enough to put into such main parts of a system, when it's going to need an upgrade in 6 months anyway.
Why aren't they just daughterboards until we reach a baseline for performance?

P.S. I don't get the negativity surrounding "AI" processing units - they just help process models locally. Just like a GPU isn't necessarily used to play pirated games, a desktop-focused NPU has a similarly small chance of being used to mimic other people's work without permission or whatever other nefarious uses some companies think up for the tech.

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Quoting: Mountain ManHow dare Nintendo protect its intellectual property!

But... that's not what they're doing here?

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: PhiladelphusProps for an inventive trailer, I guess…? What did I just watch? :dizzy:

It's educational though, innit? I had no idea Athens was like that.

As a corporal being currently inhabiting a physical location in Athens, Greece, I can vouch for its authenticity. The frogs part is mostly at night though.

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"There are over 27 thousand abandonware games in world-wide circulation. That is more than half of Steam's current library"
Great, we're one sentence in and I already don't trust this video :unsure:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/03/steam-now-has-over-100000-games-listed/

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualThe last game I heard 3D Realms associated with was around 30 years ago. Now I'm curious what they've been up to.

That's easy: https://3drealms.com/ [External Link]

I'm not really into shooters these days, but I do recognize Ion Fury and I watched Samsai [External Link] stream Wrath: Aeon of Ruin only last week. Seems solid.

Wraith [External Link] is great. It got a lot of heat for taking forever to come out of Early Access, but despite updates being slow and often minor, it always felt and looked great. I haven't played the final version yet, but I really liked the EA versions and from the streams I've seen, the final version does indeed look improved and a nice expansion on the EA version.

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Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: Purple Library GuyGosh, read what you said, and think about it.

It doesn't change how many times I read it. Do you think it's rude to call you out on your false statements about something you (admitted) have no knowledge about?

Okay, I'll step in here. You were rude in presenting Purple Library Guy's argument as if they were claiming to post fact and you had step in to disprove them. What actually happened, is that you were both speculating, but you, poiuz, chose to present yourself as morally superior and more factually correct - which is rude, since you didn't have any basis for it and there was no need to be confrontational about it.

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Well, I'm glad the choice is here, but I'm already soured on the game from its DRM introduction.

Has anyone here played it; is it any good? Watching that trailer got my hopes slightly up from the Paul Verhooven-ish "Are We The Baddies" intro, but the rest of the gameplay seems to completely drop that tone, so it looks like just another bro-shooter. Is there more to it?

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I just have to say, this F.A.Q. entry....

Q. Is nProtect GameGuard a security risk? [...]
A. No. GameGuard communicates with a few servers for patching and reporting. However, it doesn't modify anyones firewall settings and it doesn't install other software

Oh, it's only a black-boxed kernel level process that communicates with several servers, yeah, I don't see any increase in attack surface there! /s /facepalm

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