Quoting: Shmerl"Wine is not an emulator" is a half joke. Not only Wine emulates Windows, it can even emulate x86 on ARM (hardware emulation for the win!) to run Windows programs on Android for example. So not sure what's the point to waste time on arguing about it.

It doesn't emulate Windows. It translates Windows system calls into POSIX-compliant system calls.

The point for end user is this:

Emulator - always a significant performance decrease when compared to the real thing
Wine - Usually the performance decrease when compared to the real thing is insignificant, sometimes even non-existent.

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: scaineMan, this is like the The Witcher 2 argument all over again. My personal view is that whatever is under the hood is largely irrelevant, provided it performs reasonably. That's a vague term, and dependent on your hardware, sure, but "native" for me is nothing to do with wine, dxvk, togl, indirectx or whatever is doing the translation. It's whether the developer is willing to put a Linux logo on the store front.

As for Wine Is Not an Emulator? It amazes me people still care about this recursive "joke" and the distinction it implies. It runs Windows software in Linux, with a performance hit. Who cares if it's actually a re-implementation of the underlying windows system calls? As Alm888 notes, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck... we may as well call it a duck. No-one who isn't a pretty hard-core Linux nerd will care about whatever that distinction means in real terms.

You also probably think FPGA implementations are emulators? :p

My favorite recursive acronym was MiNT, which initially stood for MiNT is Not TOS. Atari couldn't come up with their own mutitasking thing so snagged that and called it MiNT is Now TOS.

There is NO inherent performance hit with Wine. It is simply a matter of whether or not the APIs are are implemented correctly and they translate well to a performant equivalent in Linux. This is why somethings are faster and other things are slower. This is also why it is strictly NOT emulation. So you are calling a moose a duck just because it can quack.

Yep. And, like, five people care about that distinction. Or fifteen. Hell, let's make it a couple of hundred. Ar we happy now? It's irrelevant!

I care and I'm a rooster, so that counts for 10000000000000000 people.

On a serious note, the people behind Wine literally put Wine is not an emulator in the name, to prevent people from calling it an emulator. Because it is simply not an emulator. Yet you have people still calling it an emulator. Calling WINE an emulator is not far from calling DXVK an emulator.

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Quoting: mos

Quoting: omer666According to your comments' tone, it seems you desperately yearn for attention, you poor little thing.

says someone who just posted 3 useless paragraphs of text. which no one probably even read. not me for sure.

cheers.

Then how do you know they are useless if you haven't read them? Also, you need to chill. All you are going to achieve by calling people morons is Liam locking this comment section. Remember, we are all on the same side here.

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This is actually one of the games I am most hyped for. The problem is, I want to play it when it comes out in its full glory and even after almost 3 years, the current version is still only at 0.22101

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Quoting: dpanter

designed primarily for local multiplayer

All the Jackbox games require always-online internet connection. Not even kidding... your choice if that's an issue or not. :neutral:

Are you serious? I was considering buying this, since I really like Champ’d Up mode, but this is a dealbreaker.

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Quoting: GuestI mean I get it, all your games managed in one place.

If this is the desire, wouldn't one be able to achieve such thing using Lutris?

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Quoting: WorMzyI'd be happy to pay $10 if it went up for sale on Steam. I'm not sure I buy into the whole "doing so now would also mean abandoning commitments" argument against that, unless keeping the game up-to-date on two (or more) platforms is unviable, and putting the game on Steam would mean having to remove the game from Itch. It reads more like Cheese doesn't want to put the game on Steam due to stubbornness, which is perfectly fine -- it's stubbornness on my part stopping me buying the game on Itch after all. :grin:

Stubborness with arguments = commitment
Stubborness without arguments = stupidity

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Does it include a

"You already have Mozilla Firefox - the safer, faster browser for Linux"

warning message?

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For controversial topics, I would like a discussion between two civilised people, who have opposing opinions on the topic: Is Proton good or detrimental for Linux gaming.
This is the one topic I see spurring up the most heated discussions on GamingOnLinux.

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Quoting: VavooonAlso wondering whether RDR2 works.

BTW this release also includes fix for flickering textures in Just Cause 3 so it's also playable now.

Checked protondb today and it seems it works very well now, without any tweaking (aside from having to kill rdr2.exe process before starting the game):

https://www.protondb.com/app/1174180 [External Link]

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