Quoting: Purple Library GuyYou can demand something all you want, but if you have no mechanisms to arrange it, it won't happen. Collective services and infrastructure require collective organization and collective resources.

Groups happen even without involvement of a monopoly on arbitration. If Spontaneous order didn't exist, Free Software wouldn't exist, Schools of Fish wouldn't exist.

If I trusted central planers that controlled everything, I would buy a Mac and go to a website called "Gaming On Mac". You can't be anti-centralization and support government.

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Quoting: CyrilI repeat it's not a democracy, for fuck's sake please stop calling these governments the same name when they have nothing in common. In a democracy you vote for the laws directly, you and evrybody DO the politics, you don't vote for someone to do politics for you.

Prepositions exist in sanfran and look at what rent control and zoning laws did for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V7lKGrjO1M [External Link]

What's the point of voting when you believe the initiation of force is NEVER justified (defence isn't initiation) and you can't get 51% of the people to agree with you?

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyWell, yes. And what did you think would instantly happen the moment a region was government-less?

I don't know, it hasn't happened in a western culture in contemporary age.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyZero taxation means near-zero social organization, which means savagery.

You act like that doesn't happen with cops today. I talked to a guy that was raped by a police chief. I don't expect good service from a monopoly.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyYour weed farmer would never eat a banana again, or post nonsense on the internet, or travel more than 100 miles. No roads, no internet, almost no education or health care, no plumbing, no movies, few books, little electricity, bits of technology might exist in small enclaves but would be unable to spread or combine with the other bits. And, of course, widespread banditry and violence.

You act like demand for those services like roads and internet and medicine and security wouldn't exist in absence of a monopoly on arbitration. We tried big Gooberment in the West, it was called Germany and East-Germany. We also tried direct-democracy in places Sanfran, they have propositions and look at their homeless populations and banning of plastic straws.

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Quoting: commodore256I don't like any political party, they all suck. I want gay farmers to be able to protect their weed crops with fully automatic weapons and pay a 0% tax.

I believe they have that in Somalia.

Somalia isn't government-less, Somalia is multiple governments trying force themselves to be the monopolistic government.

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Quoting: wvstolzingTaxation on consumer goods & wages reach absurd levels not because taxation AS SUCH is a bad idea; it's because so called 'wealth creators' get away with contributing *nothing*, under the most fantastical and 'utopian' excuses. (We're supposed to believe that tax cuts contribute to the flourishing of society in general -- yeah, right...)

Taxation is theft, it's being taken under threat of kidnapping and if you resist kidnapping via defending yourself instead of running away, they kill you. I don't care who you're stealing from, it's still theft. I think trusting central planners and a monopoly on arbitration not to be corrupt is utopian.

Quoting: wvstolzingWhere I live, under a religious conservative and VERY 'business friendly' administration, taxation on consumer goods is off the roof. Imported electronics, for example, get an approx. 80% markup -- just because. You wouldn't believe the amount they extort over alcoholic beverages.

Like I said, I don't like republicans either. They blame it on RINOs and Neocons, but that's a no true Scotsman. Fuck Republicans too.

Quoting: wvstolzingThe anti-taxation 'faith' in the US is not *that* deeply rooted; the American Revolution was ignited by resentment against taxation by a colonial MONARCH, not against a democratically controlled taxation regime.

Democracy sucks, you're at the mercy of the 51%. What if 51% of people want to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide? Though a more down to earth example is Hollywood, the most "liberal" areas is for idea monopolization. Also, George Washington was a Tyrant, have you ever heard about the Whiskey Rebellion?

Taxation is theft, War is murder and Arrests are kidnapping. The only difference is thugs with guns say it isn't, but ethically, it is.

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Quoting: commodore256Fuck Bernie, he's anti-freedom.

I live in a state dictated by DemocRAT rule [...]

Wow. I'm really suprised what extreme political sides some people here take. But words like "DemocRAT" are quite telling.

If you read the rest of what I said, I don't like Republicans either, I just couldn't think of a good pun for Republicans either. "Republican'ts" and "Republicunts" don't have a good ring to it. If you can think of a good pun, please tell me.

I don't like any political party, they all suck. I want gay farmers to be able to protect their weed crops with fully automatic weapons and pay a 0% tax.

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Fuck Bernie, he's anti-freedom.

I live in a state dictated by DemocRAT rule and their taxes really hurt the poor who have hurt by addiction and they hurt them more by making them more poor. Car Registration fees are $200 and if you're poor and your car is worth $1,000, that's 20% of your car's value in registration. If you're poor and addicted to cigarettes have fun trying to get ahead in life when Cigarettes are $11 per pack.

Fuck republicans too, they claim to defend your property rights, but Regan and Trump said you're not supposed to own pieces of metal that they don't like.

Out of all of the extreme sides we saw in the 20th century like National Socialists, the Soviets, Dictatorship, they all have one thing in common. Authoritarianism. Under the tyranny I live in, I can't even sell lemonade without worrying about costumed thugs putting me in a cage.

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Quoting: ObsidianBlkIt has nothing to do with apathy, it has to do with community.

It does, it's not your apathy, it's the community's apathy. People used things on the Internet before Facebook, Twitter and Discord. Boomers gonna boom.

I'm using Facebook and twitter less and less and I feel like my mind is getting more and more clear. Those are Junk Platforms just like how Candy is Junkfood. Not only is it not good for you, it's addictive and the cravings hurt less and less the more you control yourself. The internet is supposed to be Forums, Jabber and Mumble. Not Facebook, Twitter and Discord. "Web 3.0" is a cancer.

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Quoting: ObsidianBlkTL;DR Would love to be exclusively decentralized and open services or host my own... but I like to stay social with my friends, and they use Discord, not Mumble, sadly.

This is why this issue persists, apathy. Tell your friends Discord is for Boomers that install spyware.

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Quoting: scaineWhy the Discord hate here?.

Lots of reasons

http://classactionlawsuitsinthenews.com/class-action-lawsuit-complaints/openfeint-green-international-privacy-class-action-lawsuit-complaint/ [External Link]

Who is OpenFeint?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenFeint#Founder_after_OpenFeint [External Link]

I don't trust Discord/ Hammer & Chisel

The hate isn't without merit. It's shit like this is the straw that broke the hammer's back for me. I've been burned by non-free Software too many times.

I trusted Windows, I trusted Facebook, I trussed Twitter, I trusted Discord. I will no longer trust anything proprietary or centralized garbage ever again. How do I know my own Bios isn't spying on me? Oh wait, it probably is thanks to IME and if I was using AMD, it would be the PSP.

I've been burned so many times, this doesn't surprise me.

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