Quoting: Shmerl

I'm very curious what they mean by the "industry interest", especially since they're not giving out real details on that.

I suspect something like this: https://gpuopen.com/presentation-porting-engine-to-vulkan-dx12/ [External Link]

Certainly that ^, combined with that:
The nice thing about Linux is that it provides a fairly neutral platform from which you can then go to other platforms.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/a-small-but-nice-update-on-ashes-of-the-singularity-escalation-and-linux-support.11990

I don't know if that explains industry interest in Linux, but for Stardock it seemed to be relevant.

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Quoting: eldakingI am not very interested in this game in particular (completely opposite style of RTS for me), but Stardock has plenty of strategy games I would love to see on Linux - GalCiv and Fallen Enchantress/Sorcerer King don't run well on Wine.

Also, good to know that the industry is excited about Linux right now. It isn't just us. :)

Yes, but let's rejoice carefully! Google was also excited about Linux when they created Android...

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Quoting: Brisse

Quoting: NeverthelessWhy there is a lot industry interest in Linux gaming is a mystery to me, but I would guess it's not our current 0,8% on Steam! ;-)

Streaming? Game consoles could one day be just thin clients with games being streamed from datacenters running Linux.

Maybe, but I guess it'll take some time until net infrastructure is ready for VR in 4k..

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Quoting: TheRiddickIf games use vulkan then it kinda makes it real easy to port to Linux/Mac/Switch/PS4++ The only platform I know of atm that has a issue with vulkan is the xbox.... does it support vulkan? pretty sure they blacklisted it!

Guess so! Is Vulkan availlable on PS4 by now?

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There is a lot of industry interest in Linux right now as a game platform. I am not at liberty to explain why but Vulkan is a real game changer.

Firstly, thanks Valve for your initiative!
Wasn't it Intel that said lately Linux graphics drivers were a priority for their standalone graphics cards?
Also, whatever platform/console (Mad Box?) might be created in the future, will most probably use Vulkan. Whatever OS those platforms will use, and however open or closed down they might be, more use of Vulkan will help Linux gaming indirectly too, even if it only leads to more Vulkan Windows games.
Why there is a lot industry interest in Linux gaming is a mystery to me, but I would guess it's not our current 0,8% on Steam! ;-)

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Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: iiari

Quoting: NeverthelessWhy not purchase games cheaper on Epic? It will not defeat Steam, but it can hurt it.

Unless I've missed something, absolutely no one in this coming Store War has claimed Epic offerings will be cheaper for the *consumer*. Increased $ for the devs, yes, but no one has even made any symbolic lip service as to how the consumer benefits here. And usually, with exclusives, that implies higher prices too...

I would offer a little cheaper on Epic if were a developer, because I'd get more money of games sold there.
Edit: Of course, exclusives are always cheapest on the only store they are sold. ;-)

Such a move however could risk upsetting your potential buyers on Steam (or the other platforms) forcing you to lower your prices there as well.

I'd blame it on Steam. Everybody knows who gets the money.

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Quoting: TheBardIt was obvious from the beginning Linux was not a priority. How many times did we have false hope like this? How many projects on kickstarter did not deliver the promised Linux version? We had GOG telling us "soon" for years.

There are developers and store that care about Linux. We should focus on these ones because they make efforts towards making Linux a solid gaming platform. But more importantly there are many others that don't give a shit. Those ones we should just ignore them.

If there is something we have to learn from the 20 years of gaming on Linux is help the ones committed to Linux, don't trust promices but results.

Epic, like GOG, obviosuly say "maybe in the future". It the easy and safe thing to say. But in the meantime they hurt the Linux gaming community. And yes it does include GOG, just have a look at how many games with Linux version on Steam do not have one on GOG? The usual explaination from devs is their games use galaxy for multiplayer, which on GOG is a perfectly normal thing. So sorry to disappoint the ones saying "We still have GOG", that's wrong. By the way, I'm not anti-GOG, I buy a large number of games there. GOG have lots of good points, but Linux support is not one of them.

Likewise, I'm very sad about how much the Linux gaming community welcomed the Epic store while it not supporting Linux. We certainly made welcomed but undeserved advertisement to a anti-Linux store. We should add to the "no tux, no bux" the "no tux, no post".

I still think Linux support would be a logical step for at least Mr. Sweeney. If they were consequent, they'd have to see Linux is the only truely open gaming platform/system left on the planet, but it seems they are not...
I didn't notice the Linux community advertizing the Epic store. I noticed the Linux community discussing about Linux support of the Epic store, and asking Epic for it.

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i could use a 2018.5 to play my pile of shame. ;-)
A year should be long enough..

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Quoting: pb

Quoting: KristianThat is true enough. But if all the games leave Steam for Epic's store, Steam won't continue to have "the most users".

Steam users have game libraries built over years, they aren't going to drop steam just because there's a better deal or a cool exclusive game in the other store. Steam can lose some player-hours but certainly not users.

True! But I'm sure it'll hurt Valve if people incresingly purchase on other stores.

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Quoting: Kristian

Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: KristianThe thing that could be worrying would developers abandoning Stean(and GOG etc) due to Epic's 12% cut. If few or no new releases appear on Steam they are in trouble.

If Epic's store becomes dominant and it doesn't support Linux thatvwould be bad for the Linux marketshare.

It's not easy to ignore Steam, as they stll have the most users, but I think Valve has to reduce their cut in the long run, to avoid slow price induced erosion.

That is true enough. But if all the games leave Steam for Epic's store, Steam won't continue to have "the most users", since the users will leave with the games.

That's what I meant with erosion. Epic has better revenues to offer, as well as a more prominent place on the shelve (less shovelware), Steam has a bigger audience, as well as proven services and infrastructure. Epic will work on its shop, Valve will hopefully implement a sh!tfilter. If devs should really ask slightly lower prices for their games on Epic (because of their higher revenues there), they could force Valve to lower its cut too.
It should be interesting to see if and how Valve reacts to exclusive games on other stores. I hope they won't be forced to use that ugly tool too!

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