Quoting: tpauI don't like the outlook of everything being released on one store only like Steam.
Monopoly isn't good for the enduser.

I agree in principle. But I currently (and still) think that we can be very lucky that it is Steam who is in this dominant position.
The situation is paradox. Steam, which is the one store embracing and supporting openness and multi platform gaming is called the monoploist by those who close down markets and sell micro monopolized software (exclusive deals for one platform only).

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Quoting: whizseWishes are boring. I'm a bit psychic, so here are some predictions instead:

• Elon Musk tires of the slow development pace of Proton and tries to buy Valve
• A game is released that uses nothing but emojis as a title causing several storefronts to crash
• GOG changes name to OGO - Old Games Outlet

Yeah and NFTs will be THE big innov.. ;-D

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I wish Modern Naval Warfare to become a big success! First proper nuclear submarine sim since Dangerous Waters in 2006 and first proper nuclear submarine game (as in not exactly a sim, but still great) since Cold Waters in 2017.
It aims to have a native Linux version and tablet support for single stations in (cross platform) multiplayer.
I simply want this niche genre to live and prosper!

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To me the question seems to be: Is Aspyr even needed to at least put the existing working version back on?

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The downgrade happened to the Windows version as well, but was fixed a short time after that.
At the same time they had (have?) all hands full fixing another problem...
The Leader Pass DLC was supposed to be free for all owners of the Anthology Edition and for owners of every DLC. But that didn't work and so people thought they had to pay for it. On Twitter @CivGame said the fix is rolling out, but takes time.
Maybe after that they tend to the Mac and Linux users.
But I must say, the DX12 version with Proton is a much better experience than the native Aspire version by now!

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Thanks!
This also works for Civilization VI, which gave me a headache in the last few days...

bash -c 'exec "${@/2KLauncher\/LauncherPatcher.exe/Base\/Binaries\/Win64Steam\/CivilizationVI_DX12.exe}"' -- %command%

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Quoting: kerossinOne rolling distro alternative is openSUSE Tumbleweed. Have been using it for some time now and had very few problems with it. Worth checking out.

I liked it but had a reproducable issue. I tried to file a bug report, but their bug report site had an issue accepting new users. I tweeted to them for help with that, but never got an answer. A few days later I deleted my installation never to return again..

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I did a lot of hopping. What's left of it is that I've always come back to Mint, that I rarely need the latest software except for drivers and browsers, that I'm happy to get as much software as possible from distro repositories, that I can often install exceptions of the rule as flatpak packages easily and in parallel, and therefore a bunch of upstream problems and user repos don't pay off for me.

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Nevertheless

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Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: Rooster

Quoting: Nevertheless

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Quoting: AussieEevee

Quoting: ObsidianBlkThose neon warning signs are there,

I think part of the problem was that there was no neon warning signs. The only warnings Linus got was an error from popshop that wasn't clear on what was happening... and a giant wall of text from apt.

That 'wall of text' ends with "you are about to remove essential packages, type exactly, 'Yes, I know what I'm doing' to continue."

Which is more than enough to say 'stop, you're about to do something horrendous to your system.' I have made many jokes before about not being able to do flashing red text in Confluence because of people not following the wiki... But really there are two things to blame here. 1) Linus being smart enough to be dangerous. 2) Linus not being patient enough to read the warning.

Since Linux distros wait for more users coming over from the Windows realm, package managers should expect users coming that have been trained to ignore most of the text that is beeing thrown at them during installation of software. For them it is almost unthinkable that the installation of a gaming software could uninstall parts of their OS.
So I think it's an improvement that such users now actively have to search for the command that can do harm, instead of being able to use it by just ignoring something.
I would love the error message being clickable (depending on the kind of error of course), linking the user to a site where he/she can read about and report problems and solutions with the package that led to the error.

I say there are 2 issues here:
The first one 100% apt/Pop OS fault and that is that this should NEVER have happened during simple package installation, even if done from terminal.

But.. as anyone who worked with computers for a long time knows.. One of those things that should NEVER happen will eventually happen. Doesn't matter if you are on Linux, Mac or Windows. Which brings me to the second issue.

The second issue is 50% user fault and 50% Windows fault for training its users to be dumb and not read Warnings (yes even if it's a simple installation of package, user should be expected to read Warnings and Errors).

So instead of package managers having to expect that their users will not read Warnings (which imo is ridiculous), I would say that the distros aimed at new users like Mint and Pop should include a message when running the Terminal (with the option to disable the message for future) that the Terminal is a high level tool and the user is expected to read and understand potential Warnings.

In my opinion the ridiculous part here is that you need to have superuser rights to install a simple application.
There are people out there, who are something in between new users and geeks. They are people that want to use computers in a secure, private way. They don't want to mess with their OS more than nessessary. Most of them are now on Windows or Mac and not on Linux, for a reason..
I think distros like Mint and Pop are not primarily aimed at new users, but at those people, new users or not. And since Mint and Pop (and ...) don't stand in the way of more advanced users, they're good for those too.
So the question is: Do they find a way to welcome the users they're aimed at, without giving up certain principles?

You absolutely still have to have superuser rights to install Windows / Mac software too. Flatpak / Appimage / Snaps are different in this regard. While there are methods in Windows and Mac that software distributors can use to not require admin access, most of them don't bother. You still have a prompt that requires admin access to get past.

I don't know why it's ridiculous to expect people to know how to read... If you start up the terminal with 'OMG don't touch this unless you know what you're doing!!' do you think anyone would ever attempt to try playing with the terminal and learning something?

Oh right... That way around: On Windows most people do everything with an Admin account. Well that's stupid..
And no I never said "it's ridiculous to expect people to know how to read". I said they're trained to ignore. And maybe because they're not nuking the system all the time...
Thats why I think it's a good idea to make it impossible to destroy your system without having to read (or know).

People have been trained to hit next or allow or scroll down to do the same. On the other hand, no one has been trained to type 'Yes, do as I say' Linus should have paused for a moment to look at 'Why is this asking me a full sentence?'

Yes, you're right. I don't dispute that. I just think it would be a good idea to make app installation as easy as possible, and system destruction as intentional as possible.

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: Rooster

Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: AussieEevee

Quoting: ObsidianBlkThose neon warning signs are there,

I think part of the problem was that there was no neon warning signs. The only warnings Linus got was an error from popshop that wasn't clear on what was happening... and a giant wall of text from apt.

That 'wall of text' ends with "you are about to remove essential packages, type exactly, 'Yes, I know what I'm doing' to continue."

Which is more than enough to say 'stop, you're about to do something horrendous to your system.' I have made many jokes before about not being able to do flashing red text in Confluence because of people not following the wiki... But really there are two things to blame here. 1) Linus being smart enough to be dangerous. 2) Linus not being patient enough to read the warning.

Since Linux distros wait for more users coming over from the Windows realm, package managers should expect users coming that have been trained to ignore most of the text that is beeing thrown at them during installation of software. For them it is almost unthinkable that the installation of a gaming software could uninstall parts of their OS.
So I think it's an improvement that such users now actively have to search for the command that can do harm, instead of being able to use it by just ignoring something.
I would love the error message being clickable (depending on the kind of error of course), linking the user to a site where he/she can read about and report problems and solutions with the package that led to the error.

I say there are 2 issues here:
The first one 100% apt/Pop OS fault and that is that this should NEVER have happened during simple package installation, even if done from terminal.

But.. as anyone who worked with computers for a long time knows.. One of those things that should NEVER happen will eventually happen. Doesn't matter if you are on Linux, Mac or Windows. Which brings me to the second issue.

The second issue is 50% user fault and 50% Windows fault for training its users to be dumb and not read Warnings (yes even if it's a simple installation of package, user should be expected to read Warnings and Errors).

So instead of package managers having to expect that their users will not read Warnings (which imo is ridiculous), I would say that the distros aimed at new users like Mint and Pop should include a message when running the Terminal (with the option to disable the message for future) that the Terminal is a high level tool and the user is expected to read and understand potential Warnings.

In my opinion the ridiculous part here is that you need to have superuser rights to install a simple application.
There are people out there, who are something in between new users and geeks. They are people that want to use computers in a secure, private way. They don't want to mess with their OS more than nessessary. Most of them are now on Windows or Mac and not on Linux, for a reason..
I think distros like Mint and Pop are not primarily aimed at new users, but at those people, new users or not. And since Mint and Pop (and ...) don't stand in the way of more advanced users, they're good for those too.
So the question is: Do they find a way to welcome the users they're aimed at, without giving up certain principles?

You absolutely still have to have superuser rights to install Windows / Mac software too. Flatpak / Appimage / Snaps are different in this regard. While there are methods in Windows and Mac that software distributors can use to not require admin access, most of them don't bother. You still have a prompt that requires admin access to get past.

I don't know why it's ridiculous to expect people to know how to read... If you start up the terminal with 'OMG don't touch this unless you know what you're doing!!' do you think anyone would ever attempt to try playing with the terminal and learning something?

Oh right... That way around: On Windows most people do everything with an Admin account. Well that's stupid..
And no I never said "it's ridiculous to expect people to know how to read". I said they're trained to ignore. And maybe because they're not nuking the system all the time...
Thats why I think it's a good idea to make it impossible to destroy your system without having to read (or know).

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