Quoting: TheRiddick

Quoting: mylkabut thats the point
by the time games need more than 8GB, u need a new card anyway because even the 2080TI will be to slow

GTAV uses I think 10GB or so at 4k on max settings, its pretty old. So certainly games use that vram today.

In saying that 8GB would be just fine for AMD if they use their VRAM caching tech whatever it was. Unfortunately they need 4 chips to get the bus speed needed.. HBM2 does not come in 2GB modules, which is quite unfortunate.

GTA5 is a very bad exemple. this is a PS3!!!!! game. far away from 4K and rockstar gives a shit about PC. it often feels like they put no effort in PC games. have you ever played GTA with keyboard and mouse? its a pain in the ass, especially flying

i am pretty sure, if they make it again, with a better engine and better PC optimization it wouldnt need 10GB
so lets stick with modern games please. and from what i read and saw on yt even the 2080 has troubles with 60FPS in 4K and VRAM is not the bottleneck

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but thats the point
by the time games need more than 8GB, u need a new card anyway because even the 2080TI will be to slow

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: mylkai bought a 1 year old RX580 8GB recently for only 150€. it is nice to have 8GB vram, but not even assassins creed needs it

dxvk quite clearly benefits from more VRAM. Not all games use it fully, but it can be used to avoid extra RAM to VRAM copying.

but still: 8GB are very future proof
new tomb raider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeQG9AMmj2E [External Link]
4,5GB with DXVK

hitman 2 not even 4GB with DXVK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFTM2ZYxU0w [External Link]

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: mylkalets stick with steam statistics. (vega cards are not even listed) most of the steam users buy cheap cards. best price-performance.

And Polaris is perfect for this if you are using Linux.

i bought a 1 year old RX580 8GB recently for only 150€. it is nice to have 8GB vram, but not even assassins creed needs it

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Quoting: Creak

Quoting: mylkai dont see AMD winning here. at least nvidia has a competitor again and i hope both lower the prices for the new generation soon

* Works on Linux out-of-the-box
* 16 GB is good when you use 3D modeling software
* 16 GB + high bandwidth is future proof
* FreeSync displays are cheaper

linux users are not AMDs target group. even i would take nvidia (if i had the money) and i always had and have AMD except 1 time a geforce 6600
make a 3D modeling cards then
future proof? hmmmm steam says VRAM
1024 MB 15.44%
2047 MB 21.19%
3071 MB 7.91%
4095 MB 18.85%
2/3 have 4GB and below. i guess it takes a while until game developers can make games with 8GB minimum system requirements, or else they wont sell much

ok freesync is a + for all AMD cards

lets stick with steam statistics. (vega cards are not even listed) most of the steam users buy cheap cards. best price-performance.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: mylkathis card is also senseless
its the same price as the 2080 and as fast
the only difference is 16GB | 8GB + RT
no game needs 8GB so why would i need 16?

if this card isnt much much cheaper than a 2080 i dont see 1 reason to buy it

It's surely not a mainstream card. We should wait for something more reasonably priced while high end at the same time, I think.

thats not my point
both cards cost 700, both have kinda the same performance according to AMD
would you take 16GB, or 8GB + RT + DLSS

i dont see AMD winning here. at least nvidia has a competitor again and i hope both lower the prices for the new generation soon

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Quoting: GuestAMD kills there own marketing so much

hey we have these third gen cpus but the fourth gen is already being worked on

that's like if sony said hey we are launching the ps4 today but ps5 is already being worked on

like why would anyone buy the current gen when the next gen is already happening?

also great a $700usd gpu that will cost extra once you get next months power bill
APU master race!

this card is also senseless
its the same price as the 2080 and as fast
the only difference is 16GB | 8GB + RT
no game needs 8GB so why would i need 16?

if this card isnt much much cheaper than a 2080 i dont see 1 reason to buy it

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i tried it a few times

lot of flickering and bugs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDRchgATtms [External Link]

start again and it seems almost fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN-p7Yj-sxY [External Link]

didnt change anything

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Quoting: GuestAgreed. You pay for the Linux Version. They remove it? Refund. That should be allowed. Maybe Valve should add something like that to the Refund Policy like: If the Developer drops the Platform Support you can refund even when you played it way longer than those 2 Hours and 14 Days after Purchase. Like yeah the port was bad and Proton is a thing. But still. Thats why Proton is Good AND Bad. Bad because: why bother with Supporting and making a Working Port when Proton does the job?

But its also Epics fault for not having a proper Linux Support for their Engine. So you cant blame the Dev alone. But still.

is it really helping, if you can refund games even after 20h playtime
sounds for me like troubles and risks i better dont take next time i make a game

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will VULKAN be linux only, or windows too?
isnt it easier to build a vulkan windows version and port it to linux, like ID did with doom?

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