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Quoting: eldakingThat is great (much better than Epic). Particularly good to hear that they already have working versions and that they use Linux. Makes up for the delayed release and no word so far. Now we just wait until it actually happens, because by now we are already too used to promises without results (GOG, cough cough).

doesnt Tencent own discord?

No, not own, but quite the collection of paymasters there.

https://discordapp.com/company [External Link]

but they will be their own competitors on the gaming market

is discord allowed to use proton? is itch allowed to use it? can gog wrap it around witcher 3 and sell it as linux version?

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Quoting: eldakingThat is great (much better than Epic). Particularly good to hear that they already have working versions and that they use Linux. Makes up for the delayed release and no word so far. Now we just wait until it actually happens, because by now we are already too used to promises without results (GOG, cough cough).

doesnt Tencent own discord?
they also own 40% of epic

discord = epic ??????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent_Games [External Link]

so maybe epic comes for linux, as they said they will support a free OS

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Quoting: WJMazepasI'm surprised that this game is even receiving updates at all on any platform

it has more players than AC odyssey
kinda the same as war thunder which is also from 2013
https://store.steampowered.com/stats/ [External Link]

speaking of war thunder. are they still working on vulkan

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Quoting: GuestOnly unknown games in the whitelist, that’s disappointing.

you dont know stronghold?
Castlevania
mad tower tycoon... its sim tower, but there is also project highrise with a native (not listet) linux version
https://steamcommunity.com/app/423580/discussions/0/1726450077637895798/ [External Link]
i also heard of Botanicula

but anyways. games like hitman 2, shadow of the tomb raider and just cause 4 work. thats important

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Quoting: mylkai mean ubisoft has a franchise for every year. what does epic have, when the fortnite hype is over?

Unreal Tournament. And an engine that they're not exactly going to make difficult to use with their store.

are you serious? who plays UT today? i think valve has more gamers play csgo, dota, tf2, left 4 dead
engine? everybody has an engine. ubisoft has more than 1 engine, vavle has an engine, ea has an engine

there are so many engines on the market. i think we all agree, that ubisoft has the best open world engine with assassins creed
and theres cyberpunk coming with its own engine. witcher 3 was beautiful til assassins creed origin came along

the most beautiful games dont use unreal engine
kingdom come. best forest.... cryengine

valve just needs to improve their engine and make left 4 dead 3, or a new dota, or cs and epic + fortnite have absolutlly no chance

and im pretty sure they have half life 3/portal 3 somewhere in case of emergency

Unreal Tournament is a famous brand, and Epic can move more money into it again if needed.
And that you're disregarding the Unreal Engine like that pretty much shows how little you understand of why Epic is such a major player.

and valve has more than 1 brand. as i said
l4d, cs, dota, tf, portal, hl
vavle even has more genres

i dont disregard the unreal engine, but it is 1 of many. nothing special

I know this is going to sound harsh, because text can be taken that way, but I mean this as something more akin to a constructive comment: you appear to have "Valve blinders" on. The original comment was about if Fortnite disappears, what do Epic have? They have Unreal Tournament. The original UT was up there with Quake3. It's really not hard for Epic to build more success around Unreal Tournament, and use that to continue to leverage their own store. And yes, that keeps them quite happily in competition with Valve.

Unreal Engine is quite special. Again, I don't think you quite realise just how special. Epic have additionally added a marketplace for content to add to it - something developers quite enjoy, and Epic are going to make it very easy to get their engine, develop on it, create a game with it, and publish to their store. That entire developer toolchain will make it very attractive to indies, and that's before the lower percentage cut taken by Epic. This is why Valve should be a little concerned.

sounds nice theoretically, seems to be not so easy in practical

there is ubisoft with a very good anvil engine and an own store an they still give a lot of money to valve
there is CDProject, with an own store (DRM free of course) with a very good REDengine. they cant compete with steam. they still give valve a lot of money with witcher 3 and they will do it with cyberpunk
there is EA, with an own store, with a very good frostbite engine. they cant compete with steam

so yes, the cut to epic is less, but i think, that they also sell way less copies, because i have a huge amount of games and all of my friends in steam and i wont get another client, just because the developers get more of my money

the human being is fucking lazy. they dont want change and as long as the games on epic arent much much cheaper than on steam, no one goes to epic
and if they start with exclusive titles like EA than F you epic and all your developers. i wont support that and i hope/think that much PC gamers have the same opinion. PC gamers are different from console gamers

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Quoting: mylka

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: mylkai mean ubisoft has a franchise for every year. what does epic have, when the fortnite hype is over?

Unreal Tournament. And an engine that they're not exactly going to make difficult to use with their store.

are you serious? who plays UT today? i think valve has more gamers play csgo, dota, tf2, left 4 dead
engine? everybody has an engine. ubisoft has more than 1 engine, vavle has an engine, ea has an engine

there are so many engines on the market. i think we all agree, that ubisoft has the best open world engine with assassins creed
and theres cyberpunk coming with its own engine. witcher 3 was beautiful til assassins creed origin came along

the most beautiful games dont use unreal engine
kingdom come. best forest.... cryengine

valve just needs to improve their engine and make left 4 dead 3, or a new dota, or cs and epic + fortnite have absolutlly no chance

and im pretty sure they have half life 3/portal 3 somewhere in case of emergency

Unreal Tournament is a famous brand, and Epic can move more money into it again if needed.
And that you're disregarding the Unreal Engine like that pretty much shows how little you understand of why Epic is such a major player.

and valve has more than 1 brand. as i said
l4d, cs, dota, tf, portal, hl
vavle even has more genres

i dont disregard the unreal engine, but it is 1 of many. nothing special

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: mylkai mean ubisoft has a franchise for every year. what does epic have, when the fortnite hype is over?

Unreal Tournament. And an engine that they're not exactly going to make difficult to use with their store.

are you serious? who plays UT today? i think valve has more gamers play csgo, dota, tf2, left 4 dead
engine? everybody has an engine. ubisoft has more than 1 engine, vavle has an engine, ea has an engine

there are so many engines on the market. i think we all agree, that ubisoft has the best open world engine with assassins creed
and theres cyberpunk coming with its own engine. witcher 3 was beautiful til assassins creed origin came along

the most beautiful games dont use unreal engine
kingdom come. best forest.... cryengine

valve just needs to improve their engine and make left 4 dead 3, or a new dota, or cs and epic + fortnite have absolutlly no chance

and im pretty sure they have half life 3/portal 3 somewhere in case of emergency

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Quoting: mylka

Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: mao_dze_dunActually, we have zero indication of this. I have absolutely no idea on what you're basing your assumptions, except for this one game, that was announced as a timed exclusive.

Epic are giving away Subnautica the coming weekend. Since it not reasonable to think that the dev is just giving away their game to promote the Epic store, it is Epic pulling their wallet to bring in people. If they do it for this game, they likely did it for others as well.

ubisoft also gave away a lot of games. prince of persia, splinter cell, watch dogs
i still dont use uplay........

Ubisoft didn't have the most popular game in the world though. You will now have kids and teens growing up, understanding exactly what the Epic Store is thanks to Fortnite. They have a big pull, will be interesting to see how it goes.

but they have far cry, assassins creed, watch dogs, splinter cell, beyond good an evil, etc
epic has 1 free2play game......
i know there are a lot of fortnite player BUT most of them are on consoles. maybe children, who cant afford full price games, or have to wait til christmas

the PC market ist very small compared to PS4.

i mean ubisoft has a franchise for every year. what does epic have, when the fortnite hype is over?

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Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: mao_dze_dunActually, we have zero indication of this. I have absolutely no idea on what you're basing your assumptions, except for this one game, that was announced as a timed exclusive.

Epic are giving away Subnautica the coming weekend. Since it not reasonable to think that the dev is just giving away their game to promote the Epic store, it is Epic pulling their wallet to bring in people. If they do it for this game, they likely did it for others as well.

ubisoft also gave away a lot of games. prince of persia, splinter cell, watch dogs
i still dont use uplay........

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Quoting: GuestPush the Linux Support even further. Lower the Costs for Developers that make Native Linux Versions for Steam. And maybe go fully back to Game Development. To this day i still wait for: Half-Life 2 Episode: 3 , Portal 3 , Left 4 Dead 3. OH and one big idea if Valve is really gonna go back into Game Development: Vulkan Support. And maybe add Vulkan Support to existing Games. At least if possible of course. For Dota 2 it worked at least. So why not also for CSGO , Left 4 Dead , Team Fortress , Half-Life, Portal? I mean it never hurts right?

Lowering costs for games have Linux versions is a bad idea.

We might end up with bad performing ports just like VP did with Moto game. Many half assed ports done just for lowering costs.

valve could write something in the contract, that they have to make it playable for steamOS and like max. 10% less perfomance

i even would benefit developers if they support proton with 0,2% or something like that and another 0,2% if they use VULKAN

i mean vavle spend a lot of money for DXVK and proton. of course native ports are better, but for the start i would be very happy with more games run like wolfenstein, if they dont wanna make a native port

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