Quoting: Quote from swYes, it would be nice to have some results with really lightweighted WM like Openbox and without any compositor (Compton etc.).

Great tests nonetheless.

I am not sure this would actually provided any tangible difference, compiz is already set up to Unredirect Fullscreen Windows By Default, So Unity and Compiz are basically already being by passed when playing a game in full screen. 

So performance should be pretty much the same either way. 

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Quoting: Quote from Lord AvallonWhen I see that a game uses Unity and doesn´t support Linux I don´t care about it anymore, there´s no reason for it since I read many testmonies of developers saying how easy it is to export to Linux, I am glad this is not the case!

Yeah I can understand saying it might take more time as there is still testing to do and there maybe unforeseen issues. It is hard to get behind a project when the stretch goal means getting Linux or not. I don't mind if it's to speed up the Linux side of things.  

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Quoting: Quote from SabunA possible temporary Linux & SteamOS exclusive[...]?

Valve would be crazy not to do exactly this.

Not if it is advertised right, Call it Early access and SteamOS is the only officially supported OS (and just happens to work on Linux). 

Windows/Mac/Linux all get access to the finished product when it officially launches.

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Quoting: Quote from DrMcCoyEh, I really don't think a gamepad, however it's shaped, will ever be non-awkward for FPS.
But okay, I'll hold my judgement there until I got a chance to try it, even though I for one don't want a gamepad for FPS.

Still, with that touchscreen there, I doubt I can get that thing for anywhere near the 20€ I paid for my Logitech gamepad, right?

It won't be the same for sure, but my problem with game pads has always been how slow they feel when compared to using a mouse/keyboard and the lack of accuracy. The dual track pads seem like they might make using a game pad less enraging to me. 

As for price, this is less of an issue for me. The game pad I am currently using was $70, although I assume the Steam boxes will work with any gamepad Linux will so might not be an issue either way. 

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Quoting: Quote from DrMcCoyWow, this is the ugliest and stupidest thing I've ever seen and heard.
And I'm even not that hostile to gamepads in general; I've got a Logitech Dual Action I like to use for certain games...

I'm not so sure here. My initial reaction was kind of the same and then I thought about the way it is designed and I can see how it would put a person using a game pad on more of an even footing with someone using a mouse and keyboard (specifically with FPS's). 

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Just a note for anyone that might no buy. The Xbox 360 has only sold around 80 million boxes, we as a community have a huge amount of power to push the Steam box to be a success in the market and if we had access to a similar library to what 360 or PS3 has then I think we will really see things move. 

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There is no doubt in my mind I will be buying one. This is our best chance to push Linux as a gaming platform and if the Steam Box does well Linux gaming does well.

Plus I haven't used any of my consoles after Steam for Linux was released and I think this will help get me back into the Living room a bit.

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Quoting: MookI wouldn't say that this bundle is spectacular on the port side. MotN is quite literally the worst port it could have been, and AVNT has some issues (although I trust flibit to fix them, but I do not trust Alternative to make a good port, not after Shank 2 and MotN).

I haven't run into any issues with Shank, Shank 2 or MotN. I have already completed the first two multiple times and everything seemed to go smoothly. 

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These is however a difference between Steam and other App/Game stores they are talking about. Steam doesn't control the base platform.

Microsoft, Apple, and to a lesser extent Google have full control over the market place and the platform. They have ability to lock out competitors on the ground floor. Valve on the other hand has no method to block other markets (Like: GOG, Desura, IndieCity, Etc) from being used on Linux. 

Granted I agree that Valve could become evil (any company can) and they might not always be a friend to Linux, but I wouldn't call it hypocrisy as they don't have a problem with competing market place, but one where the owner of a platform and market combination has the ability to handicap or eliminate their competitors on that platform.    

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I am really looking forward to seeing how the Steam Box shapes up. I have no plans on buying a PS4 or Xbox One, but I would still like to have something in the living room. 

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