Way to get three pages of comments in just two hours :D

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Quoting: A dissatisfied anonymThis surely is gonna be the least profitable thing they will ever release... because of windows on it -.- This is not even a Steam Machine anymore... more like a windows contraption full of lies ;_;

You just made me realize how great that is!
Now when they release their first Steam Machine it won't be their least profitable system ever as they predicted :D

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This is just some kind of prototype for them to "test the waters"....
But yeah, they should have waited....

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Quoting: mannyweird no mac version for 2033 redux, only linux/steamOS / windows :D

Because SteamOS is not based on Mac, that's why.

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For the people wondering about discount, the games are already up on Steam for pre-order 50% off for owners of the original games.

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THAT IS GREAT! I bought both games in some crazy sale some time ago.... now I will be able to play both =D

*Then I read the article*
*OK*

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Quoting: lemmy101Metallinatus: I agree, and as you see from the first page we were happy to comply, despite the disruption it would cause. We don't want to be seen to be using people's hard work without due credit and the whole mess was just a misunderstanding. It was the subsequent arguments, as well as comments he was found to have made in our IRC at the point that thread was posted where he was threatening to have us removed from Steam over it, and also his PMs asking for me to send HIM the code, not release it publicly.

It transpired it's some Russian guy who's been decompiling our code to learn game development stuff, and it really seems to me a ploy to try and extort the PZ source code for his own use. Considering also, I'll share with you this little quote after I changed the license rules for our game to forbid decompilation (with special dispensation for the guy to confirm we'd fixed the issues he described)

"Dont let me over persuade you and reversing PZ just 4 lulz. I'm living in Russia so your lawyers have no power here. I'm not looking for money profit, I'm looking for experience and reversing PZ will give it me"

So the same champion for justice making sure other people's licenses are respected has no qualms about breaking our own license agreement, even taunting us at his immunity from any action we might take to defend our license. So the list of reasons why I do not respect his motivations for raising this in the first place is growing ever larger.

I understand everything now.... what he asked was not wrong, but the way and the reason he did.... he really is no "good guy" after all :)

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: MetallinatusI saw the first page of the linked thread and I saw nothing wrong actually.
The guy just demanded the source codes he have the rights to see, he was polite and all, did nothing wrong at all....
Then I saw the other pages and DAMN!... Hell did brake loose in there....
So, the guy is right to ask for the licenses to be respected and all and the devs were "wrong" by not be respecting it.... but this guy sureeeeeeeeeely went over the limit....
None of them was right after all, but everything could just have gone much more pacific than it was.

There's asking for a license to be respected.

Then there's threatening a developer with the FSF, Steam and threatening to release their source code. Before they can explain it.

This is all noted in my article...

Yep, that is what I meant by going way "over the limit".... as I said, everything could have been much more "pacific"

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Quoting: sgtGarciaGood that he pointed possible GPL license violation, so the guys could remove that code, but threatening devs & breaking their license is just plain stupid.

He's ret arded to the point, he don't see his own hypocrisy :/

And yeah

Quoting: GoCorinthiansJava
uhhh:sick:

Yuck... ;)

Actually, he didn't brake their license.... the devs decided to change the license after all that confusion started, so it would not happen again (which I think it was a wrong way to deal with that too), so what he did was totally legal when he did.

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I saw the first page of the linked thread and I saw nothing wrong actually.
The guy just demanded the source codes he have the rights to see, he was polite and all, did nothing wrong at all....
Then I saw the other pages and DAMN!... Hell did brake loose in there....
So, the guy is right to ask for the licenses to be respected and all and the devs were "wrong" by not be respecting it.... but this guy sureeeeeeeeeely went over the limit....
None of them was right after all, but everything could just have gone much more pacific than it was.

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