Quoting: LiamWe all know why Valve added the private game feature don't we? There's a rising amount of sex games on Steam, so it was inevitable really.

Just saying, there are also LGBTQ+ oriented games that you might not want your friends to see. I'm surprised it took them 20 years to add such a simple privacy feature.
Now if only I could add games to my wishlist too without it immediately becoming front page of the New York Times...

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Quoting: 14The changes seem pretty minor to me. Still not a children's game, so it's not like the style or mood or rating changed.

In principle, it is a weird thing to do to a game many people purchased a long time ago. Doesn't feel right.

For me, it is the fact they censored it at all. I am also pissed there have been charging/ censoring of books by long dead writers. Who gave them the right to alter the work of others?

I am pretty sure the contract they signed gave them this right, that's usually how it works.

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Quoting: kit89Interestingly enough the edits to the original Star Wars (4, 5, 6 re-edited editions) aren't censorship, as that wasn't done to appease any audience, quite the opposite in fact.

This part right here really threw me on a loop. You're basically saying it's only censorship if it appeases an audience lol
But then again, like the purple guy said, that's the narrative that the alt-right has been pushing around.

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Quoting: elmapulthat is stupid

That's how I few about labeling different openings/endings as censorship.

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Quoting: MetallinatusReplacing something with something else ≠ censorship.

And even if they kept the lyrics the exact same, the singer would still be different, because it's not a matter of lyrics, but a matter of having a song in the country's language.

again, im not against translation.
but changing the musis as well?

as for "not censorship" back in the days many businessmen didnt believed that japanese shows could make an sucess in the US without changing a lot of things, that is why they made power rangers for example, instead of showing the original shows as they were.
if you cant broadcast your show as is without any modification that dont count as censorship?

They can, they chose not to because they realized their core audience in the west aren't japanese speaking people. And even dubbing a show is modification, so by your definition, if 4Kids decided to air Pokémon in English because 99% of viewers wouldn't understand anything in japanese, that's censorship too. Even if it's an exact translation, it's a modification they had to do for the product to sell.

We are running in circles with this discussion.

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Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: Metallinatus

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Quoting: Metallinatus

Quoting: elmapulnowadays companies are mora acountable when they censor stuff because we have internet and can get informed about it, but still, most people dont know about censorship that happened in the past, for example i went to one of the biggest anime conventions from Brasil called "Anime Friends" , there was going to happen an show from the artist "Rica Matusmoto" who many openings, endings from pokemon and other animes, and dub the main character satoshi (ash), there were people there cosplaying pokemon characters... you probably would guess that those people who went to the event knew her right? or knew about the censorship that hapened in this anime, the soundtrack replacement etc right? nope, most didnt, to this day.

*Sigh* it had to be a Brazilian...

A few season 1 episodes got censored here, and that is a popular bit of anime/Pokémon trivia on the internet, so it's silly to think that your average young anime fan doesn't know about it. But you think they don't know about it just because they don't know about the singer of endings that only aired in Japan? Dude.

And to make it worse you are comparing that to censorship? You really need to pick up a dictionary, dude. The Pokémon that aired here is (or was? I don't watch it anymore) the 4Kids version. They censored a bunch of crap in every anime you could imagine, everybody knows that, but replacing the Japanese themes with localized ones is definitely not censorship.

i count as censorship, they didnt believed the original songs would make an success and didnt give it a chance to show its potential.
but regardless, that was not the only change they made.
for example, in they cut "violence" when kasumi (mist) slaps the main character, among other things, replaced all the dialouges from the first movie and many dialougues in other episodes, censored an pen because it was an real product among other things.
i wont list all the changes, there is the webpage dogasu for that, take a look at the kangaskhan episode for example.

what is censorship in your opinion? censoring political opinion?

Everything else you mentioned can be censorship, 4Kids was trigger happy on censorship, everyone knows it, but the opening and ending themes? Is it also censorship when Disney localize the songs in their movies for international release?

if they do an proper translation? no.
if they replace the lyrics or the music with something else? yes.

Replacing something with something else ≠ censorship.

And even if they kept the lyrics the exact same, the singer would still be different, because it's not a matter of lyrics, but a matter of having a song in the country's language.

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Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: Metallinatus

Quoting: elmapulnowadays companies are mora acountable when they censor stuff because we have internet and can get informed about it, but still, most people dont know about censorship that happened in the past, for example i went to one of the biggest anime conventions from Brasil called "Anime Friends" , there was going to happen an show from the artist "Rica Matusmoto" who many openings, endings from pokemon and other animes, and dub the main character satoshi (ash), there were people there cosplaying pokemon characters... you probably would guess that those people who went to the event knew her right? or knew about the censorship that hapened in this anime, the soundtrack replacement etc right? nope, most didnt, to this day.

*Sigh* it had to be a Brazilian...

A few season 1 episodes got censored here, and that is a popular bit of anime/Pokémon trivia on the internet, so it's silly to think that your average young anime fan doesn't know about it. But you think they don't know about it just because they don't know about the singer of endings that only aired in Japan? Dude.

And to make it worse you are comparing that to censorship? You really need to pick up a dictionary, dude. The Pokémon that aired here is (or was? I don't watch it anymore) the 4Kids version. They censored a bunch of crap in every anime you could imagine, everybody knows that, but replacing the Japanese themes with localized ones is definitely not censorship.

i count as censorship, they didnt believed the original songs would make an success and didnt give it a chance to show its potential.
but regardless, that was not the only change they made.
for example, in they cut "violence" when kasumi (mist) slaps the main character, among other things, replaced all the dialouges from the first movie and many dialougues in other episodes, censored an pen because it was an real product among other things.
i wont list all the changes, there is the webpage dogasu for that, take a look at the kangaskhan episode for example.

what is censorship in your opinion? censoring political opinion?

Everything else you mentioned can be censorship, 4Kids was trigger happy on censorship, everyone knows it, but the opening and ending themes? Is it also censorship when Disney localize the songs in their movies for international release?

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Quoting: elmapulnowadays companies are mora acountable when they censor stuff because we have internet and can get informed about it, but still, most people dont know about censorship that happened in the past, for example i went to one of the biggest anime conventions from Brasil called "Anime Friends" , there was going to happen an show from the artist "Rica Matusmoto" who many openings, endings from pokemon and other animes, and dub the main character satoshi (ash), there were people there cosplaying pokemon characters... you probably would guess that those people who went to the event knew her right? or knew about the censorship that hapened in this anime, the soundtrack replacement etc right? nope, most didnt, to this day.

*Sigh* it had to be a Brazilian...

A few season 1 episodes got censored here, and that is a popular bit of anime/Pokémon trivia on the internet, so it's silly to think that your average young anime fan doesn't know about it. But you think they don't know about it just because they don't know about the singer of endings that only aired in Japan? Dude.

And to make it worse you are comparing that to censorship? You really need to pick up a dictionary, dude. The Pokémon that aired here is (or was? I don't watch it anymore) the 4Kids version. They censored a bunch of crap in every anime you could imagine, everybody knows that, but replacing the Japanese themes with localized ones is definitely not censorship.

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I was there, Gandalf, when Steam for Linux was at its infancy and GoL was a regular poster at Google freakin' Plus (remember that one?). Crazy to think that even that was 10 years ago already...

Happy birthday, GoL, and thanks for all the work!

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Quoting: lejimsterI don't know anything about this game, but I believe the last Mortal Kombat game they decided they wanted to make the female characters less sexualized, cover them up. Made zero sense to me. The series has always been "mature" with its finishing moves etc, why are they getting upset over a bit of extra flesh.

At least in that case they told us ahead of time and you can choose not to buy the game. If a game that you enjoy gets a "woke update" that significantly alters the game you purchased in a way you hate, then we have a problem.

The second to last, actually, MKX. And the series has always been violent, yes, but the female characters, originally, weren't any more endowed or risque than they are now, it was only in the 00's that they got bikini armor and increasely bigger T&A with each game. "Shockingly", though, I don't remember any capital G Gamer complaining about the devs altering the look of established characters back then.

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