Quoting: Eike

Revenue was up to $1.80 billion, up 9% from the same quarter last year
Net income was at $120 million up from $102 million a year ago

This is great, but...
Intels net income ($6.0B in Q3 2019) is still several times larger than AMDs whole revenue...!

Yes, AMD is tiny compared to Intel, but considering they were almost bankrupt just a couple of years ago, these are very good results!

Can you imagine an Intel monopoly today, with €400 quad cores and €1000+ eight cores? makes you shudder...

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: barottoBut also this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111482 [External Link] (which is quite annoying because the fans are constantly spinning up and down)

I don't see such issue.

Now I'm testing with Linux 5.4-rc3 + Mesa 19.3 and I'm getting 9W power draw at idle with a dual 1200p@60Hz setup so, at least for multi-monitor non-4K 60Hz, this issue seems resolved! (but now I have to resolve incompatibility between virtualbox and Linux 5.4 dammit)

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Quoting: PangaeaHopefully they solve these issues very soon.

I'm sure they'll eventually fix the more severe bugs, but if I were you I would just wait.

Using hardware with open source drivers can be refreshing, but not at the expense of stability.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: barottoI switched to AMD for my current build to try and support the open source friendly company, and frankly I'm already regretting it.

I'm interested in your experiences...

Essentially this, random hangs: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111481 [External Link] (which is really bad because affects desktop stability)

But also this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111482 [External Link] (which is quite annoying because the fans are constantly spinning up and down)

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Quoting: ageres

Quoting: EikeThere's a reason most gamers are using Nvidia.

Marketing?

For some people yes, but you can't deny that Navi is the first really decent AMD architecture in far too many years.

Too bad the current Linux situation is far from ideal.

I've been using nvidia hardware for literally decades without any major problems. They have been generally good products for me in terms of stability, functionality and support, especially on Linux.

I switched to AMD for my current build to try and support the open source friendly company, and frankly I'm already regretting it.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: linuxcitylinus can't throw up that middle finger anymore this is a pretty damn good release.

I think he still can, due to it still being a blob ;) I don't see any change in their attitude in this regard.

Well at least it's a working blob, unlike the current AMD's open source driver...

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Thanks, but I'd still prefer up-to-date 32-bit libraries.

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Quoting: doomiebabytell that to licensees of ARM, ROFL x3

ARM's ISA has very little to do with the efficency of their CPUs, it's mostly (all?) due to the microarchitecture designs.

The best ARM implementation is currently Apple's A12, and here's the reason why it's so efficient:
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/9midcx/apple_really_undersold_the_a12_cpu_its_almost/ [External Link]
TL;DR: it's very wide with a very big cache, nothing to do with the ISA.

There's no need to change the x86 ISA and break the compatibility with every piece of software written in the last 40 years.

EDIT: fun fact, Intel will go wider with their next uarch Sunny Cove, we will see how that will go (probably very well) and how AMD's Zen3 will respond.

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Quoting: ElectroDDwe're reaching the end of what we can do with the x86 from what I heard

And where did you hear that exactly?
Last time I checked ISA's don't matter much on modern microarchitectures.

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Quoting: gradyvuckovicI'd happily sign up to that, $10/month for a Valve developed Linux OS which provides the best possible gaming desktop experience for Linux? Hell yes, give me that.

FTFY
I would pay for that.

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