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Quoting: DuncThat's why abandoning game development to concentrate on Steam was a mistake.

What are you talking about?

It's true they didn't abandon it completely - maybe I should have said new game development - but Portal 2 is almost eight years old, and Left 4 Dead 2 is nine. Dota2 was effectively bought in, and TF2 hasn't seen a major update in a long while. It's pretty obvious that Steam has been the priority for the best part of a decade.

They LITERALLY just released a game this week. Dota 2 wasn't bought in. And just because you don't know what happens behind closed doors doesn't mean they aren't working on games. What else do you think those developers are doing?

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Quoting: ElectricPrismThe best way to survive is not to charge less money but to make people NEED you, and know that you are the only one they can get what they want from.

Bill Gates knows this well.

Their cut adjustment strategy seems fair but they should really push hard on developing their console that way they can own their own mountain of gamers giving their store even more value than it currently has as the major PC platform.

STEAM MACHINES 2.0 - LET IT COME.

How is that supposed to make sense? What would be different then?

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Quoting: DuncThat's why abandoning game development to concentrate on Steam was a mistake.

What are you talking about?

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Quoting: GuestHow did we go from this to it's a good game now? [External Link]

Why don't you just answer the question? And just because people were pissed when it was announced (when aren't people pissed anyway?), doesn't mean it's the same people that like the game now. And even if they are the same people... maybe they should reserve their judgment? Just answer the question.

Valve is more interested in following the money then listening to the community that they used to claim to give a crap about

It seems they are just another trepel ayeee company who does not care about the people that made steam/valve successful in the first place

So enjoy this card game over portal 3 left 4 dead 3 half life 3 or an entirely new ip that sets a new standard for game design
you know?
the thing that made half life 1 and in turn valve successful in the first place

So you will blatantly ignore everything I've said before?

nope enjoy the yet another card game
i will continue to expect better from a company that is more than capable of doing better

I have not played Artifact. I have no interest in Artifact. I doubt I will ever play Artifact.

You're just incredibly naive if you think that Artifact is everything Valve is working on and take it as evidence to shit on them.

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Quoting: GuestHow did we go from this to it's a good game now? [External Link]

Why don't you just answer the question? And just because people were pissed when it was announced (when aren't people pissed anyway?), doesn't mean it's the same people that like the game now. And even if they are the same people... maybe they should reserve their judgment? Just answer the question.

Valve is more interested in following the money then listening to the community that they used to claim to give a crap about

It seems they are just another trepel ayeee company who does not care about the people that made steam/valve successful in the first place

So enjoy this card game over portal 3 left 4 dead 3 half life 3 or an entirely new ip that sets a new standard for game design
you know?
the thing that made half life 1 and in turn valve successful in the first place

So you will blatantly ignore everything I've said before?

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Quoting: GuestHow did we go from this to it's a good game now? [External Link]

Why don't you just answer the question? And just because people were pissed when it was announced (when aren't people pissed anyway?), doesn't mean it's the same people that like the game now. And even if they are the same people... maybe they should reserve their judgment? Just answer the question.

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Quoting: Guest

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Quoting: Guesti'm implying that valve could have made something much better then yet another digital card game that got them booed out of the building when they first announced it

Again, one doesn't exclude the other. Valve consists of many smaller teams. Just because one team created Artifact doesn't mean the other teams aren't creating other games.

Quoting: Guestno one not even die hard dota 2 fans asked for or even wanted this game

So?

Quoting: Guesthonestly it's just yet another digital card game when it could have been something better like a whole new franchise from valve that proves they don't need half life to make the next great game

but now it seems like valve just wants to be another EA imo

If they were EA they would crank out another Half-Life every year.

If they were just like every other trepel ayeee company they would make yet another card game because heartstone and gwent did it over doing something else

Why don't you just make a rational argument? :/

Valve has become a victim of their own success just like every other trepel ayee company

How so?

before i answer that i first must ask you
why do you think valve made a dota2 card game?

I can't look into their heads, but I guess it's a combination of many things... first and foremost that some of the people over there thought it would be fun to do, because that's what Valve usually does.

They have no owners or shareholders to answer to. They just do what they think is good. Often that's taking something that exists in some form and polish it to perfection.

You probably won't get were i'm coming from then

Why don't you give it a try?

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: Guesti'm implying that valve could have made something much better then yet another digital card game that got them booed out of the building when they first announced it

Again, one doesn't exclude the other. Valve consists of many smaller teams. Just because one team created Artifact doesn't mean the other teams aren't creating other games.

Quoting: Guestno one not even die hard dota 2 fans asked for or even wanted this game

So?

Quoting: Guesthonestly it's just yet another digital card game when it could have been something better like a whole new franchise from valve that proves they don't need half life to make the next great game

but now it seems like valve just wants to be another EA imo

If they were EA they would crank out another Half-Life every year.

If they were just like every other trepel ayeee company they would make yet another card game because heartstone and gwent did it over doing something else

Why don't you just make a rational argument? :/

Valve has become a victim of their own success just like every other trepel ayee company

How so?

before i answer that i first must ask you
why do you think valve made a dota2 card game?

I can't look into their heads, but I guess it's a combination of many things... first and foremost that some of the people over there thought it would be fun to do, because that's what Valve usually does.

They have no owners or shareholders to answer to. They just do what they think is good. Often that's taking something that exists in some form and polish it to perfection.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: Guesti'm implying that valve could have made something much better then yet another digital card game that got them booed out of the building when they first announced it

Again, one doesn't exclude the other. Valve consists of many smaller teams. Just because one team created Artifact doesn't mean the other teams aren't creating other games.

Quoting: Guestno one not even die hard dota 2 fans asked for or even wanted this game

So?

Quoting: Guesthonestly it's just yet another digital card game when it could have been something better like a whole new franchise from valve that proves they don't need half life to make the next great game

but now it seems like valve just wants to be another EA imo

If they were EA they would crank out another Half-Life every year.

If they were just like every other trepel ayeee company they would make yet another card game because heartstone and gwent did it over doing something else

Why don't you just make a rational argument? :/

Valve has become a victim of their own success just like every other trepel ayee company

How so?

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Quoting: SolipsistWerewolfThe business model alone is enough to drive me away. The era of pay-to-pay is here.

The era is here? You had to buy World of Warcraft and still pay every month. Or what about all other real TCGs? As if that's anything new.

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