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The Valve Steam Deck, lots of excitement and plenty to think about for Linux gaming
18 Jul 2021 at 3:49 pm UTC Likes: 4
18 Jul 2021 at 3:49 pm UTC Likes: 4
For those discussing about people installing windows 10/11 on it, I don't think people would do it a lot for the same reason average users don't bother change the system that comes with their notebooks.
And if Valve wants to "prevent" people to do this without blocking windows entirely, it's much simple than you all think. They just need to make the same statement that windows people always does to us:
"You want to install Windows on it? Go ahead but we won't support it"
Then you have the same scenario we're used to, but I really don't think average users wants this burden.
The only reason I think most of people would install windows on it, if it the same games performs way better than SteamOS. This was true back in the Steam Machines era, but not so nowadays. This is one of the reasons I think Valve will/should use a custom Linux kernel instead of a mainlined one.
And to be honest, I think the majority of users change the system will be people installing other linux distros/DEs instead of the official one.
And if Valve wants to "prevent" people to do this without blocking windows entirely, it's much simple than you all think. They just need to make the same statement that windows people always does to us:
"You want to install Windows on it? Go ahead but we won't support it"
Then you have the same scenario we're used to, but I really don't think average users wants this burden.
The only reason I think most of people would install windows on it, if it the same games performs way better than SteamOS. This was true back in the Steam Machines era, but not so nowadays. This is one of the reasons I think Valve will/should use a custom Linux kernel instead of a mainlined one.
And to be honest, I think the majority of users change the system will be people installing other linux distros/DEs instead of the official one.
Valve has formally announced the Steam Deck, a portable handheld console with SteamOS
17 Jul 2021 at 10:20 pm UTC
17 Jul 2021 at 10:20 pm UTC
Quoting: GuestDid anyone ever hear valve say anything about their asian players? no surprise, my country is not included.I would like the opportunity to ask: how is the linux scenario in asian countries?
Valve has formally announced the Steam Deck, a portable handheld console with SteamOS
16 Jul 2021 at 12:55 pm UTC Likes: 1
16 Jul 2021 at 12:55 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: elmapulfrom the ign article:Suddenlycaralho
"Pierre-Loup Griffais: Bem, há uma grande variedade de experiências lá. Demora cerca de 2 a 8 horas,
Portal 2 por quatro horas nele. Se você limitar a 30 FPS, estará jogando por 5 a 6 horas."
The Valve Steam Deck, lots of excitement and plenty to think about for Linux gaming
16 Jul 2021 at 12:43 pm UTC Likes: 7
16 Jul 2021 at 12:43 pm UTC Likes: 7
Quoting: x_wingWish I could buy one but I live in south america, almost at the end of the line for any tech :(
The Valve Steam Deck, lots of excitement and plenty to think about for Linux gaming
16 Jul 2021 at 12:39 pm UTC Likes: 2
16 Jul 2021 at 12:39 pm UTC Likes: 2
I'm expecting someone to make a site like "steamdeckdb" where people can feedback the performance of the games according to what device (and system) they're using.
Valve has formally announced the Steam Deck, a portable handheld console with SteamOS
15 Jul 2021 at 9:29 pm UTC Likes: 5
15 Jul 2021 at 9:29 pm UTC Likes: 5
Quoting: DorritWhy do you guys think they went with Arch? Is it for not needing to eventually reinstall a new OS version?I think it's because of the package manager and because games often need the latest kernel / drivers in order to get optimizations (specially if the hardware is new), and Arch is a distro already prepared to work with the most recent.
Valve has formally announced the Steam Deck, a portable handheld console with SteamOS
15 Jul 2021 at 6:42 pm UTC Likes: 2
About the situation with anticheat, since It's a kernel problem I think Valve will either use some custom kernel with SteamOS 3.0 and / or they'll have some kind of "hardware id" where EAC / Battlenet can consult (and possibly block) if it's detected the utilization of any cheater software.
15 Jul 2021 at 6:42 pm UTC Likes: 2
SteamOS 3.0 is also being based upon Arch LinuxSo my vision was correct after all
About the situation with anticheat, since It's a kernel problem I think Valve will either use some custom kernel with SteamOS 3.0 and / or they'll have some kind of "hardware id" where EAC / Battlenet can consult (and possibly block) if it's detected the utilization of any cheater software.
XWayland 21.1.2 is out now with support for hardware accelerated NVIDIA on the 470 driver
12 Jul 2021 at 3:02 pm UTC
12 Jul 2021 at 3:02 pm UTC
Quoting: slaapliedjeWhy would I have to be a distro maintainer to want to have a stable system?You gave me the impression in this sentence, my bad
Quoting: slaapliedjeBeta means it isn't going to be packaged by most distributions. Some of us don't have time to muck with betas.
Quoting: slaapliedjeNvidia marked their release as beta for a reason. Usually because they want people to test the new features and make sure they're stable before releasing a driverSo? the point is that they're finally showing support to xwayland rather than ignoring it like before, and Nvidia is the only MAJOR factor holding wayland adoption back right now. Once Nvidia drivers properly support it and Ubuntu lts start to use wayland by default, you can expect the adoption to skyrocket by users, and most important, software developers (I mean in use cases where xWayland doesn't serve their needs).
Quoting: slaapliedjeWayland may eventually be the X11 replacementAlready is. No one is maintaining X.org anymore, not even *BSD users who are the most affected by this transition. The only patches x11 are receiving nowadays are for xwayland which different from bare metal x11 actually requires a wayland compositor in order to work.
XWayland 21.1.2 is out now with support for hardware accelerated NVIDIA on the 470 driver
11 Jul 2021 at 1:32 am UTC
11 Jul 2021 at 1:32 am UTC
Quoting: slaapliedjeBeta means it isn't going to be packaged by most distributions. Some of us don't have time to muck with betas.Which distro you're maintainer?
Quoting: slaapliedjeNot to mention wayland is still perpetually beta. 😜"beta" or not, it's the x11 replacement.
XWayland 21.1.2 is out now with support for hardware accelerated NVIDIA on the 470 driver
10 Jul 2021 at 3:29 pm UTC
I personally hope the next Ubuntu lts defaults to Wayland, so Wayland support will be probably improve a lot by third party applications.
10 Jul 2021 at 3:29 pm UTC
Quoting: HoolyFedora 34 uses Gnome Wayland by default
Quoting: ahoneybunArch with GNOME does by default as well though Plasma needs the plasma-wayland-seesion package to do it.I'm aware of this, I change to gnome because of their wayland support.
Quoting: HoolyThree weeks in, and I have to say it works significantly better than what I was used to on Plasma WaylandIt's nice to know that :smile:
Quoting: slaapliedjeConsidering this is still a beta driver... nah.Beta means almost stable, the good part is Nvidia started to show sign of proper Wayland/xWayland support, instead of being deniers about that.
I personally hope the next Ubuntu lts defaults to Wayland, so Wayland support will be probably improve a lot by third party applications.
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