according to [URL='http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/chris-roberts-star-citizen-needs-your-money-to-get-more-money-and-promises-']this one[/URL] its a 10-12mil project with 2-4mil from crowd funding, so makes it 8-10mil private. so the crowd funding/kickstarter is just to show a 3rd party there is interest enough in the game ?

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Quoting: "Cheeseness, post: 6095, member: 122"Do you have a source for the private investment stuff? I haven't been able to find any information on that at all.

why I kept it at allegedly :) what I could find is that is the 2mil is reached on the crowd funding then the private investors would kick in, not the amount though, but seen that number fly on the forums.

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to be honest I am a bit dubious about this one, it allegedly got 20 million in private funding, saying they would not do one a few days later they had a [URL='http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen']kickstarter[/URL] where it took 872k, which was 372k more then needed, it added stretch goals like a repair robot which I think are just silly stretch goals, same goes for the stretch goals on this crowd funding... at 3.5 million (so 500k from the 3 million stretch goal) you gone get cockpit decorations..............

I will sit this one out, if it comes out for Linux and it's any good I will line up to buy it, but I feel a bit iffy about funding it.

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looks like a cool game indeed. also noticed that kickstarter uk does not use amazon as payment service but instead you need to enter you cc info on kickstarter.

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and it runs without issue next/alongside of wine, I love using it, makes many things so easy and yes the bottles is briliant

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Ankh rocks !!!!!, good news indeed :)

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no, I did not come out of a time machine, maybe I did not explain it to well so will try again :)

users (and I mean the common user, not you or me) have certain expectations, they buy a PC and when they turn it on it boots into the OS they know. When they buy their brand new all in one printer they plug it in, push the dvd in and 10 min later it works. When they go to a store and buy office they put the dvd in and 15 min later they see the environment they know from their work job. They download the latest GFX drivers as an exe, click a few buttons, reboot and they got the latests and greatst drivers tuned for their specific game.

I love Linux, don't even have windows at home, love tinkering with it, love using it, love answering posts on the opensSUSE forum but reality is that the user won't get linux on a new PC, they need to install it, need to switch from drive letters to sda and sdb. When they come home with the latest all in one printer they have no guaranty that it will work 100%. If they install Open Office of Libre Office they suddenly end up in an application that is not even close anymore to what they know, there is no 100% guaranty that documents made at work can be viewed exactly the same at home. The latests GFX drivers are seldom found in the local repositories of your distro and they will need to manually install them, init 3 here they come :)

This does not mean Linux is bad and Windows is great, simply means they are totally different beasts, you know that, I know that but that will not stop the common user as they will read in a PC magazine about Linux, download it, mess up their PC and will head over to their distro forum. In the long run this will benefit Linux as the only answer to this will be to make this better, more robust, easier but the influx of the general user will be quiet hard I think in the beginning.

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Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 5974, member: 1"Looks like Windows 8 will be quite the dive-bomb I have been hoping for but who knows will Microsoft do a U-Turn and open up again a bit more...i doubt it, they want more revenue and their own store is the way to really do it these days.

Valve did not really care for Linux until Microsoft mentioned the App Store and the simple fact that only App Store programs are allowed on the (metro) UI and that App Store programs are not allowed to install software on windows 8. This simply means that in the long run (windows 9, 10 etc) it will be harder and harder for none App Store software to profile itself and Valve will eventually lose customers. They now looking for a new platform and that is Linux and that is great for us but if Microsoft changes its App Store rules (they already did with PEGI rating) I wonder what will happen then.

On another note, I mentioned this before, but what will happen to the Linux community when windows people will start using Linux because Steam brings out games for it, they will come into a totally different desktop experience and things not always run out of the box like they are used to, will the forums and the community be able to handle the comments/rants/expectations of all those new users ?

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looks quiet fun actually, lets hope it makes it, it's not a huge amount compared to many of the kickstarters but it seems to have a slow start.

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[URL='https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time']Valve Time[/URL] :)

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